Surely some mistake about having a lead among the over 65s (before or after).
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Keir Starmer
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So nothing about gifts? Just criticism of Johnson for spending too much time looking for decorating sponsors.
Ignored a million pound donation to his "office".That's true. There was a graphic from Sky posted earlier in the thread and Boris Johnson didn't even make the list. Presumably because he paid back the money for his renovations. Dishonest to not include him and not explain why.
What about Boris is the starting point for any debate about sleaze. In one sense, it's quite cheering that people do expect better now.That's the point I made, you stated that you haven't seen anyone protecting him, which one is it?
Some posters have even tried the "What about Boris" angle it's pretty embarrassing.
bluethrunthru
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What I would say is there is a Conference then a Budget to follow to set out journey and destination but when I look at the R/W particularly media avalanche that was entirely predictable I think so far he is upsetting all the people you would expect them to
A day late but that is a deeply dishonest article and headline about a 2017 report by the Resolution Foundation about Theresa May's then proposal to cut the WFP, which would put 3800 old people "at risk". And they suggested that the effects could be alleviated by, wait for it, keeping the WFP for those claiming pension credit.4,000 pensioners could potentially die according to... The Labour Party.
Naivety my arse.
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Quote "Keir Starmer is alleged to have broken parliamentary rules by failing to declare donations of clothing for his wife from the Labour donor Waheed Alli.
The gifts to Victoria Starmer were not initially declared in the register of MPs’ interests, the Sunday Times reported.
Starmer approached the parliamentary authorities on Tuesday to make a late declaration after being given updated advice on what needed to be registered.
The donations reportedly covered the cost of a personal shopper, clothes and alterations for Lady Starmer before and after Labour’s election win in July.
MPs are required to register gifts and donations within 28 days." End of Quote
So all of this uproar is about timing. As soon as they took further advice on the matter, they complied with the rules. It all feels a bit like Currygate. The DM and DT get a sniff of something they can chuck out there as red meat to the likes of Chippy and PPT.
Much of this took place before he was PM when the shadow cabinet were not "provided for" by the public purse in completely opposite to ministers who could claim for stuff from public money.
I openly admit the optics are poor. But let's take Arsenal tickets for example. They have now openly said they prefer him not to be in his usual seat for security reasons. My understanding is, he didn't cancel his Season ticekt to save himself a few bob but contiued to pay for it.
My preference would be that MPs get paid a load more than they do now and nothing further can be claimed-what that amount should be though is anybody's guess.
The gifts to Victoria Starmer were not initially declared in the register of MPs’ interests, the Sunday Times reported.
Starmer approached the parliamentary authorities on Tuesday to make a late declaration after being given updated advice on what needed to be registered.
The donations reportedly covered the cost of a personal shopper, clothes and alterations for Lady Starmer before and after Labour’s election win in July.
MPs are required to register gifts and donations within 28 days." End of Quote
So all of this uproar is about timing. As soon as they took further advice on the matter, they complied with the rules. It all feels a bit like Currygate. The DM and DT get a sniff of something they can chuck out there as red meat to the likes of Chippy and PPT.
Much of this took place before he was PM when the shadow cabinet were not "provided for" by the public purse in completely opposite to ministers who could claim for stuff from public money.
I openly admit the optics are poor. But let's take Arsenal tickets for example. They have now openly said they prefer him not to be in his usual seat for security reasons. My understanding is, he didn't cancel his Season ticekt to save himself a few bob but contiued to pay for it.
My preference would be that MPs get paid a load more than they do now and nothing further can be claimed-what that amount should be though is anybody's guess.
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I hope Robot Reeves continues to do so in her budget.What I would say is there is a Conference then a Budget to follow to set out journey and destination but when I look at the R/W particularly media avalanche that was entirely predictable I think so far he is upsetting all the people you would expect them to
If the Daily Heil go full Farage after that will be a positive for me.
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Tory K will be edging interviewing Sir Keir live tomorrow morning.
.... so how come Al-Fayed was not picked up (twice) then...? Just askin'?I believe he identified there was a problem at the CPS where cases like this DIDN'T get referred to him, or other senior figures.
It's pretty well established that he introduced a new senior role at the CPS to look into this, and that when the Saville was being looked at again, this did result in him seeing the case and taking action.
So, yes it is correct that despite being head of the CPS, he didn't initially see the Saville case, and that he also put in place systems which should have picked it up if they'd been in place at the time.