Keir Starmer

[mancityvstoke]

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Not good enough for our trendy up to date foliticians

 

[Blue and true]

I agree in a perfect world. But like it or not £88k or £128k for an MP or minister is simply not enough. The fact remains that the gifts were declared albeit late after further advice was sought and received. A bad look though.

88k is more than enough. Most of them have other jobs on top of their parliamentary salaries. No politician should be claiming freebies, irrespective of whether they've been declared or not.

Let's look at it this way, does Nigel Farage warrant his MP salary? The supercilious prick has been to his constituency once since assuming the role. I would argue the majority are earning too much.

 

[hilts]

Is it a valid comparison? The clothing was for the campaign trail and probably to also be worn when meeting high net worth donors and schmoozing them. Not unusual for such people to be so vacuous to care about the fit of a suit.

Doesn't seem just a coincidence that the money came from their chief fundraiser.

I'm sure his suits fitted perfectly well before and if they didn't he could have bought them.

Fundraising and politics another road fraught with danger.

 

[Really_here]

Looking from afar, it seems very naive, what he, Rayner and Reeves did. In their position, you've got to give the impression of being whiter than white. Did they really need donations for working clothes? And did they honestly think that the matter wouldn't become public knowledge? Once the media smell blood, they're like a dog with a bone.

Fed up of hearing "it's within the rules" - you're supposedly "the party of change" and all for "working people" - so change the rules? This the Bliar gpvernment version 2. Happy to say whatever is needed to get themselves into power.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Transparent about being pigs in a trough.....oh that's ok then.

Fuck the pensioners .....how do I look in my new suit/dress?

 

[hampshireblue]

88k is more than enough. Most of them have other jobs on top of their parliamentary salaries. No politician should be claiming freebies, irrespective of whether they've been declared or not.

Let's look at it this way, does Nigel Farage warrant his MP salary? The supercilious prick has been to his constituency once since assuming the role. I would argue the majority are earning too much.

The last figure I could find was 90+ Tory MPs and 3 Labour had second jobs. It's true many have other roles they can fall back on if they're voted out. So it's not "most" by a long way.

I don't disagree that the system needs changing on the back of this, and I'm sure if I looked back through the history on here, those that are moaning about Starmer declaring stuff as the rules require, were getting just as irate when Johnson and Co were getting £800 for a roll of wallpaper that they didn't declare.

 

[mancityvstoke]

The last figure I could find was 90+ Tory MPs and 3 Labour had second jobs. It's true many have other roles they can fall back on if they're voted out. So it's not "most" by a long way.

I don't disagree that the system needs changing on the back of this, and I'm sure if I looked back through the history on here, those that are moaning about Starmer declaring stuff as the rules require, were getting just as irate when Johnson and Co were getting £800 for a roll of wallpaper that they didn't declare.

Think you'll see plenty of us slagging them tory cunts off too

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Think you'll see plenty of us slagging them tory cunts off too

That's true for you and @hilts . It isn't true for some others.

 

[Ric]

It's pretty bad optics for Starmer, given that he positioned himself as a leader who would clean up politics after over a decade of Tory sleaze. He's shown a fair bit of naivety in how he's handling these issues, and his approval ratings are unsurprisingly already plummeting. The right-wing press were always going to turn on him at the first opportunity, but he's giving them plenty of ammunition.

 

[Blue and true]

The last figure I could find was 90+ Tory MPs and 3 Labour had second jobs. It's true many have other roles they can fall back on if they're voted out. So it's not "most" by a long way.

I don't disagree that the system needs changing on the back of this, and I'm sure if I looked back through the history on here, those that are moaning about Starmer declaring stuff as the rules require, were getting just as irate when Johnson and Co were getting £800 for a roll of wallpaper that they didn't declare.

Let's face it, none of them are in it for the betterment of society; those that are are a needle in a haystack. Donations have been happening for so long that it's normalised within the MP bubble; many won't realise just how fucked off the public get by it. They're self-serving wankers, but I still think Starmer has some way to go before his bar is set as low as the likes of Johnson.

Our parliamentary make-up is antiquated, it isn't fit for purpose and needs a rethink; not least of which the honours system which is repugnant beyond words. But I'm gonna give it a while yet before I call for labour's collective head.