Keir Starmer

[Chippy_boy]

That’s not unsurprising at all to be fair. No point looking at ratings for a long while yet.

Not surprising given the balls ups? Or not surprising considering it's a new PM? I agree if you mean the former. But normally new PMs have somewhat of a honeymoon period and such a precipitous fall from grace is very unusual - perhaps uniquely so. So in that respect it is pretty surprising!

I have to say I am somewhat conflicted about the whole thing. Clearly, I can't stand Starmer - that much is obvious. But on the other hand, what do I actually want? Just a successful government that delivers improved prosperity and public services for all of us, most especially me! Putting emotions aside then, it doesn't matter if it's a successful Tory government, or a successful Labour one. So willing Starmer to fail, falling flat on his arse, is not exactly likely to help. Especially when I consider the consequences of who would likely take over as Labour PM if he got kicked out.

Still, there's nowt I can do to affect the outcome one one way or another, so at least I can find some amusement in him cocking it up further day by day.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Any chance he improved our Brexit deal ?

Not sure, but good to have a statesman like figure in the room.

Ps. Nice suit.

 

[mosssideblue]

Whoosh. Read your post.

You’re obviously seeing something I’m not

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

If the Tories appoint anyone half-competent, half-charismatic, Keith is toast.

That’s the bar now is it? That’s where we are as a nation?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

That’s the bar now is it? That’s where we are as a nation?

A little depressing, knowing that people will actually vote for anybody half competent.

Saying that, they did vote for Johnson.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Not surprising given the balls ups? Or not surprising considering it's a new PM? I agree if you mean the former. But normally new PMs have somewhat of a honeymoon period and such a precipitous fall from grace is very unusual - perhaps uniquely so. So in that respect it is pretty surprising!

I have to say I am somewhat conflicted about the whole thing. Clearly, I can't stand Starmer - that much is obvious. But on the other hand, what do I actually want? Just a successful government that delivers improved prosperity and public services for all of us, most especially me! Putting emotions aside then, it doesn't matter if it's a successful Tory government, or a successful Labour one. So willing Starmer to fail, falling flat on his arse, is not exactly likely to help. Especially when I consider the consequences of who would likely take over as Labour PM if he got kicked out.

Still, there's nowt I can do to affect the outcome one one way or another, so at least I can find some amusement in him cocking it up further day by day.

I'd take it all with a large pinch of salt at present. The Tories and RW press were blaming Starmer and labour for ruining the country within a few days of them winning the election - as if we'd just spent over a decade living in some sort of utopia!

 

[Chippy_boy]

You’re obviously seeing something I’m not

Indeed. The moment has passed now but I was just making a joke about your sentence which made no grammatical sense, "They won’t one of them either". I've no idea what that is supposed to mean.

Uncharitable of me, given I am one of the worst for typos and other wording cock ups!

 

[urban genie]

That’s the bar now is it? That’s where we are as a nation?

been like that since the pig shagger

 

[urban genie]

I must say when pushong a sensible and relevant conversation on a serious subject as assisted dying, using a promise presenter long forgotten by anyone under 40 to argue your case shows the unimaginativeness of his nature.

but then he knows anything will pass so passion or conviction isn't needed, just his autocratic way

 

[Chippy_boy]

That’s the bar now is it? That’s where we are as a nation?

I am hoping (but not expecting) Kemi Badenoch to win the Tory leadership vote.

She's the only one who comes across to me as being able to inspire the next generation in the way Tony Blair did in 97. She would also have the best chance of getting many of the 4m Reform voters to return to the Tories. She'd also have a good crack at picking up former Labour voters concerned about mass immigration.

But sadly I don't think she will win and we'll end up with Cleverly or Jenrick. And Please God not the former, standing as he is on the "I'll carry on like when we lost before" platform.