Keir Starmer

Rascal said:
Interesting day on Labour twitter with two hashtags trending

#STARMEROUT

#STARMEROUTSTANDING

For a special prize guess which twitter hashtag is being used by those with little EU flags by their names
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The McCluskey/Starmer War has taken another turn with UNITE cutting funding by 10%.
 
blueinsa said:
The McCluskey/Starmer War has taken another turn with UNITE cutting funding by 10%.
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Thats interesting. Its no wonder Keith has the begging bowl out to the capitalist class then. With membership falling and union funding falling the party finances will be in a mess.
 
Rascal said:
Thats interesting. Its no wonder Keith has the begging bowl out to the capitalist class then. With membership falling and union funding falling the party finances will be in a mess.
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We are literally turning into a one party state.

There is no opposition as things stand.
 
Rascal said:
Keith refuses to oppose.

I don't get his tactics at all.
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Keith and co should have been told to fuck off by Corbyn and Labour could and should have stood on a pro brexit stance leading up to the last election.

Tactically the biggest mistake in politics ive ever seen pandering to the #FBPE lot.
 
blueinsa said:
Keith and co should have been told to fuck off by Corbyn and Labour could and should have stood on a pro brexit stance leading up to the last election.

Tactically the biggest mistake in politics ive ever seen pandering to the #FBPE lot.
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Spot on.

The FBFE mob are backing Keith in the hope he will back rejoin. fucking idiots.
 
Rascal said:
Spot on.

The FBFE mob are backing Keith in the hope he will back rejoin. fucking idiots.
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I've no doubt if at some point he thinks he could influence that outcome he would once again and once again, Labour will suffer even more losses yet again.
 
Rascal said:
Thats interesting. Its no wonder Keith has the begging bowl out to the capitalist class then. With membership falling and union funding falling the party finances will be in a mess.
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I’m fairly old school in that I’ll generally support any labour leader as, only having a choice between 2 I’d never opt for the Tory. Whilst I did like many of the policies of Corbyn, the fact that he couldn‘t get elected, meant he should have given way to someone who could. The reasons why are largely immaterial but, like Brown, once it becomes clear you’re not going to win, get someone in who might. Policies you cannot enact are about as useful as a brilliant tasting suppository...
I find any shade of red politically more appealing than blue and if Keith can get elected, I would view it as better than the alternative. However, he does appear to have already joined the Conservative party and seems to have forgotten that the very first job of the opposition, pandemic or no pandemic, is to actually oppose. Nobody expects policies or spending plans from him but I would expect some opposition and he’s giving them less than Steve Baker and David Davis...In other words, they’re getting an absolutely free ride and it’s a terrible look.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
I’m fairly old school in that I’ll generally support any labour leader as, only having a choice between 2 I’d never opt for the Tory. Whilst I did like many of the policies of Corbyn, the fact that he couldn‘t get elected, meant he should have given way to someone who could. The reasons why are largely immaterial but, like Brown, once it becomes clear you’re not going to win, get someone in who might. Policies you cannot enact are about as useful as a brilliant tasting suppository...
I find any shade of red politically more appealing than blue and if Keith can get elected, I would view it as better than the alternative. However, he does appear to have already joined the Conservative party and seems to have forgotten that the very first job of the opposition, pandemic or no pandemic, is to actually oppose. Nobody expects policies or spending plans from him but I would expect some opposition and he’s giving them less than Steve Baker and David Davis...In other words, they’re getting an absolutely free ride and it’s a terrible look.
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Exactly, giving the Govt a free ride is counter productive. I just don't know what he stands for or what he is against. Very beige and its allowing Johnson to get away with what he wants.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Instructing Labour MPs to abstain on the Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Bill. What is that all about, ffs?
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Patriotism.

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The perfect fumble said:
The opinion polls say otherwise.
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Considering the state of BJ, the current govt, and the situation it finds itself in the polls are actually pretty grim reading for Labour. Starmer is essentially pinning his hopes on a protest vote against the Govt at the next GE while spending four years studiously avoiding expressing an idea or opinion that isn't informed by 20/20 hindsight. I say this as someone who has always votes labour and still will.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Considering the state of BJ, the current govt, and the situation it finds itself in the polls are actually pretty grim reading for Labour. Starmer is essentially pinning his hopes on a protest vote against the Govt at the next GE while spending four years studiously avoiding expressing an idea or opinion that isn't informed by 20/20 hindsight. I say this as someone who has always votes labour and still will.
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Starmer leads a party that doesn't exist and he's hoping no one notices.
 
mat said:
The new boundary changes bill and fucking Scotland off when Labour get bummed by this SNP next year will ensure a long Tory reign under another **** protecting themselves and their mates. Starmer offering Tory lite will turn off voters.
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If labour gets its act together, they could hurt the SNP badly, Sturgeon is getting stick from the news I saw this morning. Tories have only ever had token support there, traditionally, so with the right approach they could win back the 30 or 40 seats or so that they used to get every election.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
If labour gets its act together, they could hurt the SNP badly, Sturgeon is getting stick from the news I saw this morning. Tories have only ever had token support there, traditionally, so with the right approach they could win back the 30 or 40 seats or so that they used to get every election.
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The Scottish labour party are undermining their leader the same way London did Corbyn. They will get burned for that.

What is the right approach?

I'm starting to think it let the Conservatives dig their hole, say nothing about it until the majority of the country say "Hang on..."

Johnson is talking in PMQ's as though he's got a 25 year term.
 
The perfect fumble said:
Patriotism.

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The more I think about the abstention the more I think its Starmer making sure he keeps his day job ticking along defending trade unionists who've had a shoeing by the state for having the temerity to stand up for what is right.
 
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