Keir Starmer

[Rascal]

I keep hearing this word "moderate" I have yet to hear what exactly "moderate" is. Is it meek acceptance of neo-liberalism and Imperialism, is it meek acceptance of austerity and the status quo of the owner of capital exploiting the working class for their own gain. If that is moderate, you may as well just vote for the Tories because they promise you all that anyway, the wooden box Starmer will meekly accept that and probably throw in a pro EU stance for good measure anyway. That will be the only difference between the parties, their stance on the EU and that leaves people like me with no fucker to vote, because "moderate" is exactly what we don't need, we need to a radical overhaul of society and a new way of looking at capitalism so that it serves the people not those with the capital.

 

[Blue Hefner]

I keep hearing this word "moderate" I have yet to hear what exactly "moderate" is. Is it meek acceptance of neo-liberalism and Imperialism, is it meek acceptance of austerity and the status quo of the owner of capital exploiting the working class for their own gain. If that is moderate, you may as well just vote for the Tories because they promise you all that anyway, the wooden box Starmer will meekly accept that and probably throw in a pro EU stance for good measure anyway. That will be the only difference between the parties, their stance on the EU and that leaves people like me with no fucker to vote, because "moderate" is exactly what we don't need, we need to a radical overhaul of society and a new way of looking at capitalism so that it serves the people not those with the capital.

They did vote Tory because they didn’t fancy what the other guy was selling

Labour need to be in power and win the hearts and minds of the public. Only then can they control the narrative and even think about radical change

Either that or keep watching the Tories win and shout from the sidelines

 

[jma]

Too many people in the Labour Party and claiming to suport them who are hypocrites of the first order - shouting about how despicable members are for not getting fully behind someone as leader when it is their guy but doing exactly that when the leader isn't their guy. On both sides.

It is pathetic and exactly what this most right wing of governments, ruining the lives of millions, have wet dreams about.

 

[Shaelumstash]

I keep hearing this word "moderate" I have yet to hear what exactly "moderate" is. Is it meek acceptance of neo-liberalism and Imperialism, is it meek acceptance of austerity and the status quo of the owner of capital exploiting the working class for their own gain. If that is moderate, you may as well just vote for the Tories because they promise you all that anyway, the wooden box Starmer will meekly accept that and probably throw in a pro EU stance for good measure anyway. That will be the only difference between the parties, their stance on the EU and that leaves people like me with no fucker to vote, because "moderate" is exactly what we don't need, we need to a radical overhaul of society and a new way of looking at capitalism so that it serves the people not those with the capital.

You could always vote for George Galloway?

 

[BlueHammer85]

For the record, whilst I am making a fleeting visit.

My Labour party membership is in the bin, I have left the party or more accurately I have left because I am fucked off with the right wing of the Labour party with their middle class metropolitan outlook and pro-European stance. The party is fucked and I cannot support a wooden box like Starmer who was one of the architects of the Labour defeat with his kowtowing to the FBFE fruitcakes.

We had a glimmer of hope under Corbyn of a Socialist future where people mattered, now we have a Tory chancellor enacting classical Keynesian methodology and being applauded for it by all and sundry whilst when Labour proposed the same, the right wing of the Labour party opposed it and stuck with its Blairite neo-liberal obsession.

For all of you who opposed Corbyn and Socialism, you got what you deserved, one of the most inept catastrophic governments in our history lead by a narcissistic clown who is an embarrassment to our country.

I hope everyone is keeping safe, I hope you are all making some sort of sense out of the idiotic approach to this pandemic that Johnson and his fools have taken and I hope you all stay well and keep smiling.

On the bright side we are still Champions, and I am off to rejoin the CPGB

I loved Corbyn. I voted Corbyn.
I got swept up in the Momentum wave.

After that election - my whole view point changed, fuck Momentum - I see them now as I do the same way I see extreme on the right wing side, totally biased, anti and ugly.

Labour have to move central to win and with Keir Starmer they have a chance.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I loved Corbyn. I voted Corbyn.
I got swept up in the Momentum wave.

After that election - my whole view point changed, fuck Momentum - I see them now as I do the same way I see extreme on the right wing side, totally biased, anti and ugly.

Labour have to move central to win and with Keir Starmer they have a chance.

All the two major parties need to do is have a leader that relates to most of the population. It has be forever thus. The close to the centre helps, but charisma and intelligence are the most important thingsl

 

[urban genie]

I loved Corbyn. I voted Corbyn.
I got swept up in the Momentum wave.

After that election - my whole view point changed, fuck Momentum - I see them now as I do the same way I see extreme on the right wing side, totally biased, anti and ugly.

Labour have to move central to win and with Keir Starmer they have a chance.

We really don't, he is bland, won't inspire those that doorstep and campaign relentlessly and has Liz fucking Kendall already doing the media spots ffs.

Up to now his judgement has been poor on a few things, and some appointment unispiring mainly to placate the PLP and LHQ who were one of our biggest problems the last 5 years with their factionalism.

 

[jma]

We really don't, he is bland, won't inspire those that doorstep and campaign relentlessly and has Liz fucking Kendall already doing the media spots ffs.

Up to now his judgement has been poor on a few things, and some appointment unispiring mainly to placate the PLP and LHQ who were one of our biggest problems the last 5 years with their factionalism.

Don't you think that rubbishing the newly elected leader of your own party on petty, internal matters that are of little concern to the wìder electorate (not saying they have no importance but the electorate as a whole aren't bothered about internal Labour appointments) and obviously being opposed to him is also an example of factionalism?

Given that very similar attitudes in the other direction were (with some justification) cited as such when Cornyn was elected leader?

 

[manchester blue]

From the review of PMQs in one paper

"but if Labour had to choose someone well suited to parliament in serious/boring mode, it is hard to imagine anyone better than Starmer, and he will chalk today’s outing up, not as a triumph, but certainly as a success. His questions were clear, forensic and focused, he avoided bland or trite sloganising and he adopted a measured tone consistent with responsible, constructive opposition"

Very much a leader is Starmer. Head and shoulders above Corbyn.

It seems we now may finally have a competent opposition to the government, could be the best thing to have happened to Labour in recent times.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Very much a leader is Starmer. Head and shoulders above Corbyn.

It seems we now may finally have a competent opposition to the government, could be the best thing to have happened to Labour in recent times.

If anyone’s going to ruin his chances - it’s the momentum Labour supporters - and that will be very frustrating for those that want an end to Tory power.