Keir Starmer

[urban genie]

Very much a leader is Starmer. Head and shoulders above Corbyn.

It seems we now may finally have a competent opposition to the government, could be the best thing to have happened to Labour in recent times.

Boring as fuck and unispiring though.

All I see is a watered down continuation of the present we have, with a little social democracy thrown in.

This pandemic should see new thinking come out of from all sides not more of the same.


And I think I need to reiterate I found corbyn to be annoyingly useless and was waiting for him to go for a while

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

So Labour is a mixture of

Momentum
Corbynists
Trots
Blairites
Jew haters
Deniers of antisemitism
Back stabbers of Corbyn
Those who kept quiet about the back stabbers
The metropolitan liberal elite
Any others?

No doubt plenty of crossover so ladies and gents that's the Labour Party the lefties on here vote for. No doubt their particular sub group is true and just though

PMSL

Just out of interest, what sub groups would you divide the tory party into - or are they all just a united bunch of great folk?

 

[urban genie]

So Labour is a mixture of

Momentum
Corbynists
Trots
Blairites
Jew haters
Deniers of antisemitism
Back stabbers of Corbyn
Those who kept quiet about the back stabbers
The metropolitan liberal elite
Any others?

No doubt plenty of crossover so ladies and gents that's the Labour Party the lefties on here vote for. No doubt their particular sub group is true and just though

PMSL

Really wish some would understand that linking the two in green as allies the ones in blue makes no fucking sense.

If you understand the history of the classification.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Really wish some would understand that linking the two in green as allies the ones in blue makes no fucking sense.

If you understand the history of the classification.

There is no understanding, it's just a parroting of learned slogans like any cult - essentially the rw equivalent of momentum, but gains legitimacy through repetition in the murdoch media.

 

[hilts]

Really wish some would understand that linking the two in green as allies the ones in blue makes no fucking sense.

If you understand the history of the classification.

I'm not linking any group with each other in fairness

 

[hilts]

Just out of interest, what sub groups would you divide the tory party into - or are they all just a united bunch of great folk?

You would do well to find a positive post from me about the Tories. I love the child like argument of you are negative about Labour so therefore must be as blue as chippy boy.;-)

We all love a bit of whataboutism on bluemoon;-)

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

You would do well to find a positive post from me about the Tories. I love the child like argument of you are negative about Labour so therefore bust be as blue as chippy boy.;-)

We all love a bit of whataboutism on bluemoon;-)

Not at all. I agree that these factions exist, but was genuinely interested to see if you viewed similar factionilisation in other partys and specifically the Govt. If you don't it's no big deal.

 

[urban genie]

I'm not linking any group with each other in fairness

No my point is you cannot be the first two things and the last one.

But many have thrown them all together which is impossible

 

[hilts]

Not at all. I agree that these factions exist, but was genuinely interested to see if you viewed similar factionilisation in other partys and specifically the Govt. If you don't it's no big deal.

Tories generally fall into 2 groups selfish cunts or selfish cunts with a little voice that pops up every now and again and says too far

 

[hilts]

No my point is you cannot be the first two things and the last one.

But many have thrown them all together which is impossible

I never said you could though so was just clearing that up.