Keir Starmer

PannickAtTheDisco said:
it's funny how a left wingers narrative always swings to "us and them, persecution, oppression, victims". Just can't help themselves.

Not, "we weren't popular because our ideology is warped and we didn't have the foresight, tactical nous, intelligence and where-with-all to run and manage things properly, which is why our policies end up shit and unpopular and we lose. Our bad".
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What a load of bollocks.


That last paragraph is projection of the current right wing. Newsflash! The right wing are winning with a stonking majority yet all I see is them sounding like they’ve lost and looking to blame their enemies for everything they are fucking up. The elected representatives of the right are happily stealing from the public purse for their mates with little or no protest from the so called free press. The country is rudderless with no management of a pandemic and breadcrumbs being thrown at people who will lose their jobs because of this governments myopic view of protecting their very rich friends.


The left stands ups for the victims and the persecuted, whilst the right would happily create more to demonise and divide. “***** is stealing your job/education/healthcare, not us sucking every penny out of it for our own personal gain. We don’t want you to notice that or you’ll have us out on our arse and will do anything, and we mean anything to keep the scales tipped in our favour. Now go and be a good little pleb and earn just enough money to pay your bills and eat shit food that will kill you when you became little use to us. Here’s a voucher for happy burger meals to assist with the premature heart attack.”


How much will all this money be worth to them all when they can only live in their own isolation bubbles on a polluted earth made uninhabitable by their greed?
 
The far left absolutely have a victim complex, but also a bizarre shifting moral compass which basically flips depending on who is under the microscope. See this very forum and the harpooning of Trump for sexual assault allegations and racist behaviour compared to the collective fellatio on Biden who’s just made yet another racist comment and is accused of sexual assault. It’s hard to hold any sort of discussion with someone who holds such lucid opinions as they just move the goal post from day to day.

It’s déjà vu, 4 years ago the arrogance on display in this forum when Shillary was the next messiah was something to behold. The refusal to see reality as Trump had people at the live debates whooping and hollering when he said he’d put Hillary in jail and going viral online, yet according to Bluemoon Trump was decimated in all 3 debates. Funny.

The only reason Biden has a chance in my opinion, is because Trump has disgracefully botched the COVID response.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Judging by what you write and believe mate, it's no surprise why you can't understand
why they do.
You're not alone, many socialists, after seeing their hopes dashed yet again,
also wonder why, O'Brien wonders why, Michael Foot wondered why, all of them do.
What their blind belief doesn't allow for is the possibility they may be wrong,
they see it enacted, see the chaos, the misery, and still they believe, and so they
start their dreary lectures again, and prepare for another futile tilt at it.
And after, they follow up with... Why?
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Explain to me why they do then?

The NHS is a beloved institution, why do people vote for a party that despises the NHS and would love to sell it off.
Why do working class people vote for a party that offers tax cuts to the rich, but not themselves.
Why do the working class vote for a party that cuts education funding for their kids
Why do the working class vote for a party that closes down the parks and youth clubs their kids play at
Why do working class people vote for a party that despises Unions
Why do working class people vote for people who raise regressive taxes like VAT
Why do working class people vote for a party that supports zero hours contracts
Why do the working class vote for a party that has raised pension ages
Why do the working class vote for a party that pays one of the lowest pensions in Europe
Why do the working class vote for a party that puts profit before people
Why do the working class vote for a party that will waste billions on nuclear weapons
Why do the working class vote for a party that has all but destroyed the welfare state safety net
Why do the working class vote for a party that is fine with homelessness
Why do the working class vote for a party that closes libraries
Why do the working class vote for a party that puts bankers before buses
Why do the working class vote for a party that is fine with inequality of opportunity
Why do the working class vote for a party that does little about poverty
Why do the working class vote for a party that does not recognise the public sector has a place
Why do the working class vote for a party that promotes privilege
Why on this fucking earth would the working class ever vote for crony capitalism
And why the fuck would the working class vote for an old Etonian Bullingdon boy lying narcissistic **** like Johnson.

I have more whys, but I am trying to get through to the GPs to get an appointment for my mum and I fear at any moment my phone will go through the window.
 
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mat said:
Right wingers love to project their failings onto the left.
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Why would they, they very rarely fail to get to govern, all the left get to
do is whinge and squawk about them 'giving everything to their mates,' which must be
one of the daftest whinges yet.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
The far left absolutely have a victim complex, but also a bizarre shifting moral compass which basically flips depending on who is under the microscope. See this very forum and the harpooning of Trump for sexual assault allegations and racist behaviour compared to the collective fellatio on Biden who’s just made yet another racist comment and is accused of sexual assault. It’s hard to hold any sort of discussion with someone who holds such lucid opinions as they just move the goal post from day to day.

It’s déjà vu, 4 years ago the arrogance on display in this forum when Shillary was the next messiah was something to behold. The refusal to see reality as Trump had people at the live debates whooping and hollering when he said he’d put Hillary in jail and going viral online, yet according to Bluemoon Trump was decimated in all 3 debates. Funny.

The only reason Biden has a chance in my opinion, is because Trump has disgracefully botched the COVID response.
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Null and void, there is no left in American politics. The word Socialism makes them think of Stalinist tanks on the White House lawn.
 
blueinsa said:
They didn't stand at the booth diverting over 2 million labour voters to vote Tory mate.
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You didnt read that post did you.

It was about the 2017 election and the number of votes was under 3000, that was the difference between a labour government and a tory government
 
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