Keir Starmer

I notice David Miliband is now criticising the left of the Labour party and Corbyn for undermining Sir Keith and hasn't ruled out a return to frontline politics.

The hypocrisy of the **** knows no bounds. When his father was disgracefully attacked by the Mail, it was the left who supported his father, it was Corbyn who was on TV supporting his father and now David fresh from his job at the UN dept of international terrorism and capitalist exploitation wants to help return Labour back to the days of Blairism.


Another nail in the coffin of the Labour party, I mean the **** couldn't even win an election when both candidates were called Miliband.

There needs to be a new Socialist party of the left that reflects working class values rather than the current regime with its bohemian liberal London centric establishment font.
 
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I notice David Miliband is now criticising the left of the Labour party and Corbyn for undermining Sir Keith and hasn't ruled out a return to frontline politics.

The hypocrisy of the **** knows no bounds. When his father was disgracefully attacked by the Mail, it was the left who supported his father, it was Corbyn who was on TV supporting his father and now David fresh from his job at the UN dept of international terrorism and capitalist exploitation wants to help return Labour back to the days of Blairism.


Another nail in the coffin of the Labour party, I mean the **** couldn't even win an election when both candidates were called Miliband.

There needs to be a new Socialist party of the left that reflects working class values rather than the current regime with its bohemian liberal London centric establishment font.

You and the like minded absolutely need your own party and i dont say that in a disparaging or sarcastic way.

The Labour party has flirted with the left in Corbyn and it isn't going to go back that way any time soon.

It will now pander very much to a pro EU audience and business in an attempt to get elected.

My take is it will make them very electable in London and not so much elsewhere.

As you where then........
 
Is it just me or is Starmer definitely left wing?

He’s certainly not a Blairite.


Yep - Starmer is a bit too far left for me. I think the party went the wrong way when Ed got the job over David. And from there on its been going downhill at the hands of the far left nutters who thought he wasn't left enough. For me I'm good with Starmer as he is taking on the far left nutters and that is the road back.
 
I never believed a word of that to be fair.

He is about as socialist as Johnson is.
Going off the furlough and eat out schemes he’s pretty socialist then ;-)

In all seriousness we can only take him for what he’s pledging now, he’s put those things out there, they’re definitely social democratic, if not basic compared to a manifesto but still... I don’t actually think the party has moved that far away in terms of where they were under Corbyn, it’s just mostly personnel change.
 
Yep - Starmer is a bit too far left for me. I think the party went the wrong way when Ed got the job over David. And from there on its been going downhill at the hands of the far left nutters who thought he wasn't left enough. For me I'm good with Starmer as he is taking on the far left nutters and that is the road back.
Rascal isn’t going to be happy with you :-)

Im a floating voter and could very much be persuaded by Starmer, I’m not opposed to living in a social democracy as I agree with his social policies.
 
Rascal isn’t going to be happy with you :-)

Im a floating voter and could very much be persuaded by Starmer, I’m not opposed to living in a social democracy as I agree with his social policies.

I'm mostly a labour voter. Took a timeout out in protest at JC in 2017 but other than that Labour in every other election. There are far more people like you and I than there are people who think Labour is not left enough. The Corbynites are a faction within a party - they have zero reach beyond it.
 
The rejection of biology, nature and science in general is what will dissuade me from voting for Starmer at the moment. Points 1, 2, 5, 6, 7 also have issues.
 
I'm mostly a labour voter. Took a timeout out in protest at JC in 2017 but other than that Labour in every other election. There are far more people like you and I than there are people who think Labour is not left enough. The Corbynites are a faction within a party - they have zero reach beyond it.
I don’t come at it from an ideological perspective. Say for example JC’s policy on nationalising OpenReach, industry experts and former leaders of BT said it was a terrible decision that would affect many jobs.

Now, I think the rail industry is a disgrace and I’m open to nationalising that definitely, once I see a bit more detail I can make my mind up.

I’m perfectly happy for basic necessities to be under public ownership, such as energy and transport and mail etc. Im not opposed to it at all, if it makes sense practically.

I just think the whole Corbyn package wasn’t right but then I couldn’t bring myself to vote Tory, my seat is always Tory or Liberal anyway, so went LibDem.

The Social Democrat Party are my party in the UK, left wing economically but don’t have anything to do with the metropolitan bohemian bourgeois lot.

Trouble is they never stand anyone where I am.
 

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