The idea anyone could think this Tory party is acting in the interest of the majority of the British people is frankly absurd. The damage they are happily inflicting on our country's reputation and the contempt with which they hold literally everybody outside the top 1% is there for all to see. This is probably as anti British as a government can be with respect to its own people and it's standing on the global stage. They've done a cracking job at convincing people that the very lifeblood of Britishness rests in the words of a shit song nobody even knows the words to though.
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The idea anyone could think this Tory party is acting in the interest of the majority of the British people is frankly absurd. The damage they are happily inflicting on our country's reputation and the contempt with which they hold literally everybody outside the top 1% is there for all to see. This is probably as anti British as a government can be with respect to its own people and it's standing on the global stage. They've done a cracking job at convincing people that the very lifeblood of Britishness rests in the words of a shit song nobody even knows the words to though.
bluethrunthru
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Whilst Milliband doubtless feels he has tried for high office and isn't interested Starmer needs to promote him in the shadow cabinet for his obvious abilities to assist Starmer in times like today. Furthermore if Labour can present a talented cabinet in the face of a Tory shambles it makes them a more electable party. Then bear in mind that Parliamentary competence faces off against shouty buffoonery the Tories damage themselves.
Fame Monster
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I think they're two very separate arguments.
The two songs that the previous DG didn't want to be sung were and are very much part of British culture and symbols of Britain although I don't think anyone is calling them the lifeblood of it.
Fame Monster
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It obviously was a story because every single newspaper, right and left, carried it with BBC sources backing it up and Tony Hall hinting at the reasoning.
Pretending it was fake news or confected is Trump-style deflection tactics.
You're right about the culture wars dividing the working class but it's not the Tories or the Farage types who are going to war with British culture. Hence why I thought it was important that 'a Labour spokesman' spoke out about it but Starmer himself should have been more outspoken because the Labour Party should not be pandering to the minority of offence junkies in this country: they should be serving the interests of the working class who were, by and large, appalled by the BBC's decision.
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I'm sure the working class, by and large, couldn't give a fuck.
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Indeed.
Fame Monster
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My experience is different from yours then.
These culture wars are a big reason why the working class now vote Tory. Labour would be foolish to think they don't matter to people.
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Culture wars are all you have, but they won't put food on the table post Covid, post Brexit.
1980s levels of unemployment are coming, there won't be many fretting about Land of Hope and Glory.
I'd say the other actual countries that make up the union ought to be seen as very much part of British culture too. Yet we're talking about a song and we're talking about Labour being seen as the "anti British" party whilst the current Tory government prepares to throw the people of NI under the bus and probably wave goodbye to Scotland forever. He's dismantling Britain.
He can shell out swathes of the British people's money in untendered contracts to his cronies. He can watch the country fall apart around him. He can denigrate large sections of the British public. He can lie to the queen to get what he wants. He can shred Britain's reputation on the world stage. He can tell British people to needlessly put themselves at risk during a deadly pandemic whilst doing sod all to protect them. He can do all that because some idiots believe all that's needed to prove your Britishness is to ride a zip wire whilst waving a paper union jack. He is not pro British. He works directly against the interests of the British people. He is pro Boris and that's it.
Anyone that chooses to fixate on the Labour Party as being anti British right now needs to get a grip and looks at what has happened in this country over the past 10 years and what is happening right now.