Keir Starmer

west didsblue said:
It probably doesn’t.
Name me another PM that has lied as blatantly and regularly as this one.
Name another PM that has presided over a less talented bunch of self serving corrupt tossers totally unqualified to be government ministers.
Name another government that has deliberately sabotaged the economy of the country and increased the likelihood of the break up of the U.K.
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I give you Ramsay MacDonald who refused to meet representatives of the hunger marchers in 1934.
 
Gray said:
I give you Ramsay MacDonald who refused to meet representatives of the hunger marchers in 1934.
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You’re right that you can remember further back than me. You must be about 100 if you remember that, assuming you were a politically aware teenager.
 
west didsblue said:
You’re right that you can remember further back than me. You must be about 100 if you remember that, assuming you were a politically aware teenager.
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Not that old but if you take an interest in history some things stick in your mind and that was one of them.

By the way I am very middle of the road when it comes to politics and frankly do not trust any of them.
 
Gray said:
Not that old but if you take an interest in history some things stick in your mind and that was one of them.

By the way I am very middle of the road when it comes to politics and frankly do not trust any of them.
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We were talking about living memory, and my assumption was that meant yours or mine.
As for Ramsay McDonald, I won't pretend to be particularly knowledgeable about him, but from what I can gather he certainly wasn't a lying fraud and there is historical debate about his tenure as PM, and whether he had a positive or negative legacy.
 
Keith Stalin has tabled a rule change to ensure MPs choose the leader Instead of the members one person one vote.

If only he was as arsed challenging the shower of shit in charge over purging (a word the media seem to refuse to use when reporting this) anyone left of centre from the party.
 
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mat said:
Keith Stalin has tabled a rule change to ensure MPs choose the leader Instead of the members one person one vote.

If only he was as arsed challenging the shower of shit in charge over purging (a word the media seem to refuse to use when reporting this) anyone left of centre from the party.
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As he appears to be questioning his own legitimacy as leader, is it now time there was another leadership election?
 
In a world where 3 word statements seem to resonate 14k words is a waste of effort. Short message for Keir constructed in a manner which is easily understood

DO.YOUR.JOB.
 
mat said:
Keith Stalin has tabled a rule change to ensure MPs choose the leader Instead of the members one person one vote.

If only he was as arsed challenging the shower of shit in charge over purging (a word the media seem to refuse to use when reporting this) anyone left of centre from the party.
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What was the score a few years back when Jeremy changed the rules to allow more Union members to have a vote when he was being challenged? I’m sure he was on the way out until that change was made.
 
west didsblue said:
It probably doesn’t.
Name me another PM that has lied as blatantly and regularly as this one.
Name another PM that has presided over a less talented bunch of self serving corrupt tossers totally unqualified to be government ministers.
Name another government that has deliberately sabotaged the economy of the country and increased the likelihood of the break up of the U.K.
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The fault lies with those who vote for them or can't be arsed voting at all.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
What was the score a few years back when Jeremy changed the rules to allow more Union members to have a vote when he was being challenged? I’m sure he was on the way out until that change was made.
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Corbyn changed the rules to one person one vote to give members more power. Amazed how many experts on Labour party rules seems to be the unions are controlling it. Even under him, that wasn't the case. His leadership took the power and influence away from the Blairite PLP and they've never forgiven him.
 
mat said:
Corbyn changed the rules to one person one vote to give members more power. Amazed how many experts on Labour party rules seems to be the unions are controlling it. Even under him, that wasn't the case. His leadership took the power and influence away from the Blairite PLP and they've never forgiven him.
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Did he?

It was Miliband.


www.bbc.co.uk

Labour presses on with 'one member, one vote' leadership reforms

Plans to reform Labour leadership elections are expected to go before the party's national executive committee this weekend.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
Is he stl writing a lot and saying fuckall.

I will be honest I have become politically idle the last few months and paid no attention to labour who are invisible anyway.
 
mat said:
Corbyn changed the rules to one person one vote to give members more power. Amazed how many experts on Labour party rules seems to be the unions are controlling it. Even under him, that wasn't the case. His leadership took the power and influence away from the Blairite PLP and they've never forgiven him.
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Obviously not him but there was the other change where they changed the rules WRT the vote which allowed a couple of hundred thousand members who had recently joined being able to vote, mainly union, which was always going to favour JC.

The point is that there’s been massive infighting for such a long time and with so many factions then it is easy for the Tory propagandists to divide and conquer, led ably by the rich who own the media.

As we see on here, there are a multiple of attitudes to where Labour should be and whilst those opinions are so polarised the coalition of factions will not be able to overcome the Conservatives unless the Tory backers get completely pissed off with them.
 
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