Keir Starmer

[Vic]

Have i been intellectually insulted? oh well if the cap fits, first of immigration was the major point on the agenda, the unemployed and low paid voted in the highest numbers for decades, Labour had already said it would raise the population to 70 million and that would adversely affect these two groups for generations,
You do not mind if i think your researchers did not identify the correct groups,, i may have a few friends but i have access to1000s of people some of which work for the research companies.

No insult intended at all.

I don't recall this "raise the population to 70m" policy. Source?

In any case, unemployment was 5% at the time of the referendum, effectively full employment. I know it was a thing that immigration kept wages low, but I'd venture that most immigrants were doing jobs that Brits don't want to do at any price (or at least any economic price).

And the places where immigration was the major point on the agenda were places that didn't have many immigrants. Many Lithuanians working for Nissan in Sunderland?

I have no idea what "access to 1000s of people" means.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I think if you looked into immigrants would be the tip of the iceberg and merely a symptom of the cause. The real blame lies at the feet of rentier capitalism and the practice of outsourcing. Jobs that might have been inhouse within public sector like cleaners for the NHS will now have poorer pay and poorer conditions, despite the fact that it isn't like just cleaning an office or a retail store. Ditto for Children's residential homes where councils have given up responsibility of maintaining their own. Of course it will be more widespread in private sector (not working on behalf of public sector) like hospitality.

It’s easy to point the finger at immigrants and claim they were coming over here for benefits, when in actual fact it is due to a number of push and pull factors. The obvious being that people are more likely to speak English as a second language, and Liberal Labour markets that make it easy to get into a job without lots of undue bureaucracy.

 

[Rascal]

Labour had already said it would raise the population to 70 million and that would adversely affect these two groups for generations,
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When did the Labour Party say this?

The UK population is currently 68 million, so are you really saying Labour planned to bring 2 million immigrants to this country?

Even Migration Watch, the ultra right wing think tank acknowledged that Labours plans would cut immigration by 7-1%

 

[Rascal]

Labour had already said it would raise the population to 70 million

I have searched and searched and searched and can find no evidence at all that Labour ever said this.

In fact i have found no evidence at all that anyone ever said it, not even the likes of Farage with a throwaway remark aimed to imitate Labour had said it.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

No insult intended at all.

I don't recall this "raise the population to 70m" policy. Source?

In any case, unemployment was 5% at the time of the referendum, effectively full employment. I know it was a thing that immigration kept wages low, but I'd venture that most immigrants were doing jobs that Brits don't want to do at any price (or at least any economic price).

And the places where immigration was the major point on the agenda were places that didn't have many immigrants. Many Lithuanians working for Nissan in Sunderland?

I have no idea what "access to 1000s of people" means.

When did the Labour Party say this?

The UK population is currently 68 million, so are you really saying Labour planned to bring 2 million immigrants to this country?

Even Migration Watch, the ultra right wing think tank acknowledged that Labours plans would cut immigration by 7-1%

When did the Labour Party say this?

The UK population is currently 68 million, so are you really saying Labour planned to bring 2 million immigrants to this country?

Even Migration Watch, the ultra right wing think tank acknowledged that Labours plans would cut immigration by 7-1%

Jeremy Corbyn said it when he first took power of Labour I felt very let down and it stayed with me. the belief that immigrants only do the work Britons are too lazy to do is very insulting and a lie that the multi national companies put out to keep wages down.

 

[Ban-jani]

I have searched and searched and searched and can find no evidence at all that Labour ever said this.

In fact i have found no evidence at all that anyone ever said it, not even the likes of Farage with a throwaway remark aimed to imitate Labour had said it.

There wasn’t a specific number put on it but Blair and Straw put into practice a designed policy of radically changing the country through mass immigration. It wasn’t just neglect, it was done on purpose.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Jeremy Corbyn said it when he first took power of Labour I felt very let down and it stayed with me. the belief that immigrants only do the work Britons are too lazy to do is very insulting and a lie that the multi national companies put out to keep wages down.

Can you produce evidence? I have just had a look on Google and nothing relevant came up. The UK's population was estimated to reach 70m by 2035, I assume that timeline will be revised due to EU exit, covid and other stuff.

I don't think there was any intention to insitute central planning of increase population via immigration as is so often claimed.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

There wasn’t a specific number put on it but Blair and Straw put into practice a designed policy of radically changing the country through mass immigration. It wasn’t just neglect, it was done on purpose.

Evidence?

 

[Ban-jani]

Evidence?

Read this mate:

 

[salfordbluetrue]

Can you produce evidence? I have just had a look on Google and nothing relevant came up. The UK's population was estimated to reach 70m by 2035, I assume that timeline will be revised due to EU exit, covid and other stuff.

I don't think there was any intention to insitute central planning of increase population via immigration as is so often claimed.

No i can not it was a TV program he said it on, i can not see how the population was estimated to grow without immigration, homosexuality and contraception has had 2nd generation British and above population dropping for a decade