Keir Starmer

[Mr Kobayashi]

Whoever from the Left of Labour will be attacked by the media if they become leader. If they haven't got anything concrete, they will just make stuff up anyway.

Its weird ain't it, Johnson does all sorts of stuff that a Labour leader would be crucified for, but we are told to move on, nothing to see here. Ed Miliband eats a bacon butty and its the apocalypse.

Lavery would be a good choice, the Blairites would be in a state of derangement, the media will call him a Marxist and liken him to Pol Pot, Kim Jung Il and Castro rolled into one and the Capitalists will threaten to move en masse to where they have hid all their ill gotten gains from the Taxman.

Too old fashioned to be a good choice, he might be genuine and have working class roots, that could strike accord in Northern post industrial communites but it will only take you so far.

Clive Lewis would be a better leader.

 

[bluenova]

Hasn't Lavery got a dodgy loan from a miners pension fund or compensation fund lurking in his past? If so then the RW Press will just be handed another feeding frenzy

There were a few rather dodgy financial aspects of his job at the union. I believe he also got a pay off even though he left to become an MP.

There was an enquiry, so you'll hear that he was "exonerated", but if you read the report, it was more that they simply couldn't prove anything as all the paperwork had been destroyed (legally, as it only has to be kept a few years), and nobody at the union "remembered" what happened.

It was also a legacy union - a lot of the miners unions didn't have current miners as members, but were supporting ex-miners, and did a lot of work on compensation claims, but prior to Lavery leaving they had a "tidy up" and ended the membership of all the ex-miners. So everyone left was pretty much on the committee with Lavery, and these were the people who "forgot" everything that they'd done - and why would you "remember" the reasons for writing off a loan, or paying off someone who already has another job? It also meant that only a simple investigation could be conducted, as it required a complaint from a current member to go further. Of course, now there weren't any current members who weren't close to Lavery.

When you read the investigators report, you can feel their frustration.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Whoever from the Left of Labour will be attacked by the media if they become leader. If they haven't got anything concrete, they will just make stuff up anyway.

Its weird ain't it, Johnson does all sorts of stuff that a Labour leader would be crucified for, but we are told to move on, nothing to see here. Ed Miliband eats a bacon butty and its the apocalypse.

Lavery would be a good choice, the Blairites would be in a state of derangement, the media will call him a Marxist and liken him to Pol Pot, Kim Jung Il and Castro rolled into one and the Capitalists will threaten to move en masse to where they have hid all their ill gotten gains from the Taxman.

I have time on my hands I will happily pack their bags for them...........

 

[mat]

Labour went from 20% of the vote share to losing their deposit in Chesham by election.

They were expected to lose the former safe Tory seat but not with only 620 votes in a 52% turnout.


I hope Keith is asking questions.

 

[Scottyboi]

Labour went from 20% of the vote share to losing their deposit in Chesham by election.

They were expected to lose the former safe Tory seat but not with only 620 votes in a 52% turnout.


I hope Keith is asking questions.

Tactical voting actually being taken seriously for once. Labour will never get in power on their own for god knows how long if ever. Only option will be alliances to bring the Tories down.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Labour went from 20% of the vote share to losing their deposit in Chesham by election.

They were expected to lose the former safe Tory seat but not with only 620 votes in a 52% turnout.


I hope Keith is asking questions.

He's lucky the media focus is on the Lib Dem gains so far. Imagine if Corbyn had had similar?

 

[mat]

Tactical voting actually being taken seriously for once. Labour will never get in power on their own for god knows how long if ever. Only option will be alliances to bring the Tories down.

Labour will lose Batley as well.

IF they have a swing to another candidate as big as the one in Chesham. It'll show have behind the party is and radical changes are required. As well as a national debate on a monumental change in people's voting intentions.

 

[Scottyboi]

Labour will lose Batley as well.

IF they have a swing to another candidate as big as the one in Chesham. It'll show have behind the party is and radical changes are required. As well as a national debate on a monumental change in people's voting intentions.

Yep Labour is eating itself at a time when the UK need them most.

 

[mat]

Yep Labour is eating itself at a time when the UK need them most.

Indeed.

I don't like saying it. They'll get a spanking in Batley.

Central office are calling, emailing all lefties that have refused to canvass for it because we know that Starmer will blame us if we did.


Sending Blair to Chesham and Mandleson to Hartlepool pretty much proved how out of touch the leadership is.

Unless there's monumental changes the Tory majority maybe cut by pissed off Tories by voting lib dem. Further cutting down their 2nd party numbers in the house.

 

[ganganvince]

Indeed.

I don't like saying it. They'll get a spanking in Batley.

Central office are calling, emailing all lefties that have refused to canvass for it because we know that Starmer will blame us if we did.


Sending Blair to Chesham and Mandleson to Hartlepool pretty much proved how out of touch the leadership is.

Unless there's monumental changes the Tory majority maybe cut by pissed off Tories by voting lib dem. Further cutting down their 2nd party numbers in the house.

Don't think they will to be honest, had they put up a career politician believe you may be right but choosing as they have could well get votes they wouldn't normally get.