Keir Starmer

[Mr Kobayashi]

Well his latest advisors recommend more displays of patriotism and dressing smart & stuff like that: the Union Jack Flag, to try to get the 'red wall' voters back.

Leak reveals Labour plan to focus on flag and patriotism to win back voters

Exclusive: leaked internal strategy presentation reveals plan to ‘change the party’s body language’

www.theguardian.com

That may work I suppose, but what about the kids at the Pimlico Academy and people like them many of whom will be 18 at the next G.E. these were students who burnt the Union Jack flag if you recall, so they might not respond well to this new strategy.....

They might not be British citizens and entitled to vote though.

 

[bluethrunthru]

They might not be British citizens and entitled to vote though.

Behave.........you will be claiming they are not all Old Etonians next lol

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Behave.........you will be claiming they are not all Old Etonians next lol

Apply for citizenship if you have indefinite leave to remain or 'settled status'

Apply for British citizenship if you have indefinite leave to remain (ILR) - form AN, who's eligible, fees and how to apply.

www.gov.uk

How much it costs
It costs £1,012 to apply for each child.

You must also pay £80 for your child’s citizenship ceremony if they turn 18 during the application process.

Relatively expensive process (especially when compared to other European countries) and one which the government makes a nice profit on.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Apply for citizenship if you have indefinite leave to remain or 'settled status'

Apply for British citizenship if you have indefinite leave to remain (ILR) - form AN, who's eligible, fees and how to apply.

www.gov.uk

Relatively expensive process (especially when compared to other European countries) and one which the government makes a nice profit on.

Just been getting dual Australian citizenship for my kids, believe me those figures you quote are a fucking bargain.

 

[BlueHammer85]

He will never recover from this (see below) the older generation (and we are a country with a high percentage of old people) have no time for this 'virtue signalling'. What about the other week when he sacked the lady on the right*(after a by-election defeat) a few hours after saying he was 'taking full responsibility' and then within a day or so had to give her other, more important jobs!

That's not leadership, that's just a joke.

*Well shes on the left actually, but on the right, in the picture!

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Are you equally disgusted when Man City players do this ?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Just been getting dual Australian citizenship for my kids, believe me those figures you quote are a fucking bargain.

How much did they pay you?

 

[mat]

Starmer says he’s listening to Blair’s advice of ‘total reconstruction’ to revive Labour

‘We need to make the persuasive argument about why Britain would be better under Labour, we need to be patriotic and proud about it’

www.independent.co.uk

Sir Keir's job is to maintain perpetual Tory rule.

 

[Windrush48]

Are you equally disgusted when Man City players do this ?

Look, that is unfair. In my opinion, sport and politics shouldn't mix, which is why there are Bluemoon football forums and Bluemoon politics subforums, I guess.

But for the record, no I'm not 'disgusted' when Man City players kneel before the kick-off. However, their job is to win football competitions, not elections.

Furthermore, I wasn't 'disgusted' when I first saw the picture of Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner doing it (oo-er Mrs!). But I did raise an eye-brow and think, not a great idea if you want to win the next General Election.... I also wondered if Boris Johnson would do likewise, he didn't as far as I know. Who advised Starmer to pose for that picture or was it his own decision? Because all the Tories need do is slap it on a poster in 2024 and they have the 'bigoted peoples vote' in the bag.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Look, that is unfair. In my opinion, sport and politics shouldn't mix, which is why there are Bluemoon football forums and Bluemoon politics subforums, I guess.

But for the record, no I'm not 'disgusted' when Man City players kneel before the kick-off. However, their job is to win football competitions, not elections.

Furthermore, I wasn't 'disgusted' when I first saw the picture of Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner doing it (oo-er Mrs!). But I did raise an eye-brow and think, not a great idea if you want to win the next General Election.... I also wondered if Boris Johnson would do likewise, he didn't as far as I know. Who advised Starmer to pose for that picture or was it his own decision? Because all the Tories need do is slap it on a poster in 2024 and they have the 'bigoted peoples vote' in the bag.

the problem is you view the kneel as political. it's not, it's a show of support against discrimination. there is nothing wrong with it - only bigots seems to have the problem with this and of course Millwall fans, wonder why.

 

[Windrush48]

the problem is you view the kneel as political. it's not, it's a show of support against discrimination. there is nothing wrong with it - only bigots seems to have the problem with this and of course Millwall fans, wonder why.

I get that, but for many people (not me, I'm talking in general) the gesture is intrinsically linked to the #BLM uk movement and that is political, with aims such as defund the police, smash capitalism and close prisons.

So I still say he was wrong to do it and his poll rating and even the Hartlepool by-election result may have been effected by it.