Keir Starmer

Stuck this on the other thread, but what's the chances (once the earth is scorched) of David Miliband making a return from New York? Looks and sounds the part...
 
Doesn’t really matter. Labour are finished!

A new party needs to come out of this “The People’s Democratic Centre Left Party” for want of a better name.

In a FPTP system this wont work, the system is fragmented and the least fragmented side tends to win. The downing of tools of the brexit party while the remain / centrist vote was split across 3/4 parties was a major factor in this. If you took the Lib Dems / Labour / Green vote and merged it together in to a single center left block they would have won a decent majority. But Labour under Corbyn are miles away from the center ground and the Lib Dems are always too far back to make an impact.
 
The system also suits Labour - that they do not support electoral reform is a damning shame on that institution.

yep, both cons and labour loves the voting system. It's third party that gets fucked with it mostly.
 
Are you implying that all future political leaders need to have been Leavers.
Certainly not a leader who has publicly opposed leaving the EU, dismissed leave voters opinions and actively campaigns to remain.

Benn is not the right choice if Labour wants to reconnect with the vote they've just emphatically lost.
 
Lisa Nandy Wigan MP would be a good choice .... They will back another champagne socialist though and get their arseholes handed to em again in 5 years.....
When the Tories win Bolsover and Sedgefield you know the game is up ... :-)
 
Certainly not a leader who has publicly opposed leaving the EU, dismissed leave voters opinions and actively campaigns to remain.

Benn is not the right choice if Labour wants to reconnect with the vote they've just emphatically lost.
Won't matter once we have actually left, and he's otherwise a decent politician.
 

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