Keir Starmer

I read the thread. I don’t tend to reply. It’ll be fun to see who the next leader is and how shit you think it is.

It’s all you do.
Its a poisoned chalice for sure. Tough job when youre compared to people who say theyll make the grass green and the sky blue and everything rosy but with little substance to support how thyere going to do it
 
It's staggering how manifestly unsuitable people get the top job in politics when everyone with knowledge of them knows they're unsuitable, but votes for them anyway, most likely in the hope of feathering their own nest.

The Parliamentary Labour Party knew Gordon Brown wasn't suited to being a leader. They knew Corbyn wasn't. They knew Starmer wasn't. The Tories knew Johnson was an absolute rogue, and that Truss was a complete lunatic. Yet all of them got the leadership, and all bar Corbyn, actually got to run the country.

Then when they've stepped down, they'll say "We knew his faults/was the wrong person." And they almost certainly did know.

Where is their fucking integrity? Why did no one stand up and say "Hang on, he's not fit to lead the party and run the country and you all know that'"?
You forgot Michael Foot!
 
I may misread it but I wonder how real the Green threat actually is? I mean they are actually clinically insane, and outside areas where the Immams coordinate the votes for them, I wonder how many other seats they might get in a GE where Polanski's clinical insanity is pulled to shreds by every media channel in every interview.

I think voting for you local Green councillor is a lot less "serious" than voting for a Green MP, and I think their vote collapses in a General Election. For now they are a protest vote. When its for real? Their vote disappears I think.
They used to say that about the Liberals
I'm never sure about Foot. I certainly don't think he was a leader in the Thatcher/Blair mould but he had great personal integrity, was hugely intelligent and articulate, plus he had clear political principles.
He had all those but was totally unelectable and the media made sure of that
 
I wish I had your confidence.
I don't see the point in going from Starmer to Streeting, he's a careerist and tbh comes across as a bully and a bit sinister. Mahmood is blue labour or a purple as I call them. There wouldn't be much point. The only problem I guess is the known cabinet ones have been picked by Starmer.

Maybe some of the Labour guys on here could put forward some names.
 
I may misread it but I wonder how real the Green threat actually is? I mean they are actually clinically insane, and outside areas where the Immams coordinate the votes for them, I wonder how many other seats they might get in a GE where Polanski's clinical insanity is pulled to shreds by every media channel in every interview.

I think voting for you local Green councillor is a lot less "serious" than voting for a Green MP, and I think their vote collapses in a General Election. For now they are a protest vote. When its for real? Their vote disappears I think.
They used to say that about the Liberals
 
Does anyone here live in Lucy Powell constituency? Is she any good??

Was my MP for many years when I lived in Hulme.

She's from Moss Side so she did a lot for that area with the regeneration of that area including the new university campus on Stretford Road called Birley Fields Campus.

No issues with her and she seemed to have her constituency at heart
 

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