No, it's not, it has a superficial attraction to those who've never experienced it, but no, it isn't.Nationalisation is popular amongst the public.
Even communist China realised a free market economy works, Nationalisation of commercial organisations leads to unhealthy business practices, over staffing and wasted revenues with no incentive to improve the product. Nationalisation has had its day, it should never return.Nationalisation is popular amongst the public. They need to be wiser about it though, offer one per term and stop scaring voters by trying to change the entire infrastructure of the country. And start with utilities and fuck transport and broadband, for now.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic.../nationalisation-vs-privatisation-public-view
She’s a **** and you know it.That's balls. She'll be adaptable with a new leader and she's a solid performing, strong northern woman. There aren't enough of them around to dismiss her.
Anyone who's a supporter of Corbyn is anathema to the electorate, when are you going to realise this?That's balls. She'll be adaptable with a new leader and she's a solid performing, strong northern woman. There aren't enough of them around to dismiss her.
The left you say that would leave the party is exactly what it needs, and that list of chosen successors, including Momentum, would ensure
that Labour never gets in. It's baffling to many why people think that carrying on with a Corbynista is the way to rescue the
Labour party, but now it's in the grip of this cult, that looks like it's going to happen.
In 5 years time, you'll be on here again wondering why the working class have not returned to you, we keep telling you
the reasons, but it just won't register. The youth you keep relying on are growing up, the 18 year olds replacing them have
never influenced an election, yet there's still this blind faith in them.
Anyone who's a supporter of Corbyn is anathema to the electorate, when are you going to realise this?
Wrong again, Blair followed on from the left of the party and won three times, this country is not left wing, theseThis is my point, the moderate side of the party believe they can win by purging the left as much as the left think they can win by sacking off the centre. They're both wrong. Under moderate leaders Labour haemoraged votes in their millions through the noughts and early tens. They were going nowhere until Corbyn came in and added 200,000 to the membership. It's also very clear that a Corbyn type socialist isn't going to win either. If the party can't meet in the middle it will lose election after election.
Ok mate, we tried, crack on.More than ten million of the electorate just voted for Corbyn. Not everyone and everything from the left should be purged.
Interesting. I hadn't realised so many people were deluded. The Tories should start a campaign to explain to people why nationalisation is not the answer (because it isn't).Nationalisation is popular amongst the public. They need to be wiser about it though, offer one per term and stop scaring voters by trying to change the entire infrastructure of the country. And start with utilities and fuck transport and broadband, for now.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic.../nationalisation-vs-privatisation-public-view
You rather more succinctly summed up what I have been saying for years. The country is not hard left, so hard left policies can not win any more.Wrong again, Blair followed on from the left of the party and won three times, this country is not left wing, these
politics are over, jettison all the Corbynites and there's a chance, stick with them, and every 5 years you'll get the same answer.
You need to bin the daft nationalisation plans as well. Not renewing rail franchises is one thing, but spending tens or hundreds of billions on buying back utility companies is enormously stupid. Left wing ideologically driven nonsense. We don't have the money and if we did, there are FAR better things to spend it on.
*Rail nationalisation is incredibly stupid as well, BTW. 80% of current disruptions are are caused by Network Rail (already nationalised) and the rest are down to underfunding, which would be fixed by more government spending. Renationalisastion is completely unnecessary.
Wrong again, Blair followed on from the left of the party and won three times, this country is not left wing, these
politics are over, jettison all the Corbynites and there's a chance, stick with them, and every 5 years you'll get the same answer.
As I said mate, crack on with the same blinkered, idiotic policies that have brought Labour to its knees, you'reAnyone who thinks we can just dive back to the centre, purge the left and succeed is living in cloud cuckoo land.
Due to the looming environmental catastrophe making 50 year predictions could be foolhardy.As I said mate, crack on with the same blinkered, idiotic policies that have brought Labour to its knees, you're
lucky in your views, as Labour has gone just as you want it to be, so at least you'll have 700,000 like minded
people to rage at the Tories with for the next 50 years.
Fair point, but you'll still be here ;)Due to the looming environmental catastrophe making 50 year predictions could be foolhardy.
Yeah. Perhaps I’ll change the vote to ‘Crayons’ Rayner.You cruel bastard, anyone would think you want the Tories in forever;)
That’s it then as long as he has Len onside done dealRed Jonny let the cat out of the bag this morning on his sofa when he said he favoured Long Bailey.
Odd then that our privatised railways are virtually all run by nationalised ones. I went to London yesterday on a train owned by Italian state railways. If the fucking Italians can do it then I'm sure we can.No, it's not, it has a superficial attraction to those who've never experienced it, but no, it isn't.
That might be attractive and make sense to the potential Labour voting electorateAndy Burnham will be groomed for the next election