Just finished reading a book about a post war murder. Two things are perhaps relevant to this thread. You are quite correct Attlees government did not abolish capital punishment because most Labour voters were in favour of it. This accords with what you said earlier that there is a strong streak of social conservatism running through working class Labour support.
Secondly the author of the book a child of the late 40s was grateful to the socialist policies of Attlee's government. Free school fees, fares, textbooks, public library card, spectacles, braces on her teeth, concentrated orange juice and cod liver oil.
My comment to you was tongue in cheek, and I didn't intend to patronise.
The guys you mention were brought up in a different era. I suspect though that there were probably wealthy Tories who had more liberal social mores shall we say.Attlee and Bevan both voted to uphold it after they were voted out too. Tony Benn had many small c conservative views and the Blue Labour movement is still considerable.
Okay fair enough, it’s hard sometimes to understand context when communicating with the written word.
The guys you mention were brought up in a different era. I suspect though that were probably wealthy Tories who had more liberal social mores shall we say.
They need to bring the limit down to 16 weeks unless rape and serious disability applies,the pussy footing around the limit helps no-one,babies are now living at 22/23 weeks,it's a scandal you can have an abortion up to 24 weeksIt would appear that Rebecca Long Bailey, the Continuity Marxist candidate, has shot herself in the foot by saying she's not keen on having different limits for regular or disability linked abortions. Quite right of course but why even mention it?
I edited my post it read a bit like I said Attlee, Benn were wealthy Tories, which obviously was not the case.They were but conservatism is built upon on tradition. Not that some things need to move on but the majority, specifically the good aspects to society, are expected to stay the same under this ideology.
Is that all your own work?
I have to say, it's VERY good :-)
She didn't just mention itIt would appear that Rebecca Long Bailey, the Continuity Marxist candidate, has shot herself in the foot by saying she's not keen on having different limits for regular or disability linked abortions. Quite right of course but why even mention it?
I edited my post it read a bit like I said Attlee, Benn were wealthy Tories, which obviously was not the case.
I was highlighting perhaps that while there are social conservatives within the Labour movement there are also social progressives on the Conservative side.
As to your last point it is the debate between Edmund Burke and Thomas Paine.
Who's the LibDem leader? (No googling.)I'm totally underwhelmed by all the candidates. With perhaps a particular mention to that Nandy woman, who for me represents the very small-town, narrow-minded attitudes that a proper Labour Party should avoid like the plague.
Starmer is probably the best of a bad bunch, but that isn't saying much. There is a very good chance that I will be defecting to the Lib Dems in future elections as I don't like the look of the stall Labour seems to be setting out.
If Labour choose another Marxist there will be a new party formed with center right Labour MP's and Center left Tories ..... people similar to Blair, Brown, Heseltine, Major, Ken Clarke ....MP's with similar ideas to those
Looks like Jess Phillips will be withdrawing later today.
Yep. Shame, I liked her. Think the left of the party hate her tho, so her dropping out is a worrying sign. Steeling myself to accept its going to be Long Bailey. At which point I'm gonna have to become a Green voter.
Yep. Shame, I liked her. Think the left of the party hate her tho, so her dropping out is a worrying sign. Steeling myself to accept its going to be Long Bailey. At which point I'm gonna have to become a Green voter.
Is the sneering working class derider still in the hunt?Looks like Jess Phillips will be withdrawing later today.
Is the sneering working class derider still in the hunt?