Keir Starmer

Ancient Citizen said:
Lol, you 'Upped your game' years ago by telling us that some far left crank that had spent
all his life throwing bottles was the next messiah, look how that turned out.
I knew, and still know, that he, and the likes of you, have zero credibility then, and
always will, that must hurt, because you lose, and keep on losing, so whatever it is you think you
know, best think again.
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Like being savaged by a dead sheep.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
That’s a pretty good analysis. He is going to have to be very clever and I really don’t know enough about his vision for the Labour Party and how he keeps the left relatively onside whilst making the party electable again. The crisis may offer some political opportunities as the U.K. may be ready for a different type of politics, some of it depends on the damage the crisis inflicts on Johnson and his regime.
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Starmer will not have any trouble until he has to write a manifesto and that is 4 years away. Even then what can the hard left do? They have to lump it in the same way that everyone else had to lump the Corbyn manifesto. This makes it sound like it's on a breaking point but in reality Starmer is pretty central within the Labour party so he far more support than Corbyn would ever get and he was leader through two elections. Add to that Starmer is looking a way better performer at PMQs and the only thing the press have against him is that he bought a field for a Donkey Sanctuary and the Labour leadership looks far far better than it ever did under Corbyn. Labour party members are not stupid - they see the improvement and they are not pining to go back to the Corbyn era.

On the other hand Johnson had to expel 20 odd MPs and various others dropped out over the last 6 months. What is left are those that are loyal to him but many are new MPs - they are an unknown quantity and we don't know how they will react when things start to get ugly. There is a shit storm brewing with Farming unions and the big farming constituencies are all tory. Lets see if any waver.
 
The perfect fumble said:
You don't like Denis Healey, you don't like Jeremy Corbyn and you don't like Starmer by the looks of it.

You make no substantive posts at all.

It begs the question, what the fuck are you doing in here? Beyond stinking the place up.
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The first one, when you thought you'd made a cutting quip by referencing, and did not expect
me to know that, was responsible for this country begging the IMF for help, after yet another
monumental screw up of the economy, so no, I'm not exactly enamoured. The next one, who you slavishly
adored and believed to be the next great PM, really needs no comment, and shows just how much you understand the populace. Starmer has got a big job on, his past record doesn't inspire, but we'll see.
Just carry on with the hate diatribes, you're good at hating.
 
Chris in London said:
lol.

So you DONT understand your own question.

who’d have thought?
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If you have no idea whatsoever what Starmer stands for, other than holding the govt to account,
fair enough, I was simply interested if he's going with Corbyn's tack, or has something new and refreshing
to offer.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
The first one, when you thought you'd made a cutting quip by referencing, and did not expect
me to know that, was responsible for this country begging the IMF for help, after yet another
monumental screw up of the economy, so no, I'm not exactly enamoured. The next one, who you slavishly
adored and believed to be the next great PM, really needs no comment, and shows just how much you understand the populace. Starmer has got a big job on, his past record doesn't inspire, but we'll see.
Just carry on with the hate diatribes, you're good at hating.
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And you're good at......

I'll get back to you.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
If you have no idea whatsoever what Starmer stands for, other than holding the govt to account,
fair enough, I was simply interested if he's going with Corbyn's tack, or has something new and refreshing
to offer.
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After Corbyn, holding the Govt to account IS something new and refreshing

Now is not the time for a Starmer to be setting out his views on foreign aid and transport policy. Even you can see that.

Now is exactly the time for the government to be held to account: we have a government whose inept handling of this crisis has caused us to have the worst mortality rate in the world bar the USA, where an even bigger simpleton is in charge. Think about that: the only place that’s doing worse than us is one where the a President thought that injecting yourself with bleach might be a good idea.

it’s actually very sad that people’s lives are on the line, and lives have been lost needlessly because of the choices the government have made, but what gets you hot under the collar is not that it’s happening but that the government’s lamentable track record is being held up for all to see.
 
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BJL_City said:
Lol.
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Well this guy has all the ammunition he needs to bring these fuckers to book, the whole shit show from start until now has been criminal to say the least, lie after lie being exposed on a daily basis, denial after denial being issued only to be proved correct by media and press outlets, time to see what you're made of kier.
 
davek1808 said:
Well this guy has all the ammunition he needs to bring these fuckers to book, the whole shit show from start until now has been criminal to say the least, lie after lie being exposed on a daily basis, denial after denial being issued only to be proved correct by media and press outlets, time to see what you're made of kier.
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These clowns haven't a clue, firefighting all the time, making it up as they go along.
 
Chris in London said:
After Corbyn, holding the Govt to account IS something new and refreshing

Now is not the time for a Starmer to be setting out his views on foreign aid and transport policy. Even you can see that.

Now is exactly the time for the government to be held to account: we have a government whose inept handling of this crisis has caused us to have the worst mortality rate in the world bar the USA, where an even bigger simpleton is in charge. Think about that: the only place that’s doing worse than us is one where the a President thought that injecting yourself with bleach might be a good idea.

it’s actually very sad that people’s lives are on the line, and lives have been lost needlessly because of the choices the government have made, but what gets you hot under the collar is not that it’s happening but that the government’s lamentable track record is being held up for all to see.
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Don’t let anyone in this government off with ‘we are worst performers other than America’. Total number of deaths in the USA is less than three times the number of ours even though the population is five times bigger. So, they’ve had Trump, huge confusion, been late to act and send mixed messages every single day and even they’ve done better than us, relatively speaking.
 
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