Keir Starmer

The tories don't need to exploit anything, Labour supporters have preferred fighting each other to the conservatives for 25 years.
I agree Labour supporters have been fighting each other for the last 25 years.

But I think you're being naive if you think the Tories haven't / won't exploit that.

My whole point is that Labour needs to accept internal differences, compromise, and present a united front in order to win.
 
I agree Labour supporters have been fighting each other for the last 25 years.

But I think you're being naive if you think the Tories haven't / won't exploit that.

My whole point is that Labour needs to accept internal differences, compromise, and present a united front in order to win.
Nothing to say about the leader sacking a shadow minister for standing on a picket line ?

How does that square with your last paragraph ?
 
I'm just wondering if this whole "internal division" argument was prominent under Corbyn leadership...?

No? Interesting...
If Corbyn reflects your values, fair play to you. I totally accept your right to hold those values.

The best way to have those values (or close to them) in government is for Labour to win the next election.
 
There’s a move by some supporters on Twitter to get rid of Starmer. Not sure how that can be made to happen but I’ll carry on with the theory. Only one name put forward to date, Andy Burnham. A person from Manchester instantly responded with no! We didn’t want him, he’s not the person you think he is, ask anyone from Manchester. What do people on here think?
 
Nothing to say about the leader sacking a shadow minister for standing on a picket line ?

How does that square with your last paragraph ?
I think it's wrong and he should be supporting them.

He should also be expressing concern about what Kwataeng is doing and what Truss has said about strikes.

I think he's treading very carefully at the moment because he has a lead in the polls and he's being overly cautious to not negatively affect that.

I would be bolder, and I wish he would be.

But I come back to - who is going to be better for workers and their ability to strike - Kier Starmer or Liz Truss?

I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that it would be Kier Starmer.

This Tory government is teetering on the edge between bumbling incompetence and dangerous authoritarianism.

It has to be stopped, and I'm willing to overlook the disagreements I have with Starmer's approach in the short term, because I disagree much more vehemently with the Tories approach.
 
There’s a move by some supporters on Twitter to get rid of Starmer. Not sure how that can be made to happen but I’ll carry on with the theory. Only one name put forward to date, Andy Burnham. A person from Manchester instantly responded with no! We didn’t want him, he’s not the person you think he is, ask anyone from Manchester. What do people on here think?
People on twitter generally talk shite

Listen to radio Manchesters Burnham phone ins, loads call up moaning about the stupidests things a metro mayor doesn't deal with
 

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