Keir Starmer

[west didsblue]

Wait let me get this right, the next prime minister of this country when saying something that makes everyone in the room laugh at him needs a quiet word in his ear.
He can't work it out for himself? He really lacks any kind of self awareness,? He can't read a room and has never thought I wonder if I'm repeating myself a bit too much here.

For once, you’ve got a point.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Someone should tell him that constantly repeating the toolmaker thing makes him a laughing stock though.

If a phrase or statement resonates with voters then you repeat it - thats how politics works - remember Get Brexit Done?

 

[bluethrunthru]

The manifesto has Starmer on the cover and all over the inside plus a picture of him with Zelenksyy at the D-Day commemorations. The Conservatives one has no pictures of Sunak anywhere - speaks volumes about the expectations of both Parties

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

After the first debate there was something on where they were tracking the audience response to the debate. One of those things where people press if they like something, and if they don't, and the toolmaker story was about the most positive thing on the night.

Harry Cole was on, and he was laughing, but saying that for a lot of people it was actually the first time they've heard it. It's one of those things that the 10% of the population who are actively into politics hear 100 times, and the other 90% are oblivious.

Starmer obviously needs to be programmed to laugh when other people do.

This is true. I saw a poll recently (though it may be a few weeks out of date now) where only 11% of the respondents knew what Starmer’s dad did for a living.

This is exactly the kind of thing the Tories do all the time. Repeat things ad nauseum even if they make you look stupid, because most of the population still haven’t heard it. People laughed at Johnson’s oven ready deal, which he repeated literally hundreds of times. It’s because the vast majority of people are simply not engaged with politics. And if you do a poll on election day I can guarantee you most people still won’t know what Starmer’s dad does for a living.

What Labour do know is that it’s a sound bite that does well with people who haven’t heard it before, and they’re the people that they’re trying to reach, not the ones who have heard it 100 times already.

The 10% who are laughing literally don’t matter because they are politically engaged and so in the vast majority of cases have already made their mind up.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Going to be a bit mean I think stingy until he gets in power then Labour are going to really think logically about tax and borrowing.

 

[metalblue]

Agreed. He should have thought faster on his feet but the fact that’s the biggest criticism suggests there was not much to pull him up on when he was answering proper questions. Don’t think fluffing an ad lib will lose him many votes. Not as many as trying to convince people that migration and waiting lists are going down when the statistics say they are going up.

Duh…they’re down since last week. Do try and pay attention… what’s the saying there are 3 lies, lies, damned lies, and statistics

 

[mackenzie]

Although I wouldn't quite say awe inspiring it was definitely a 1000 notches up on anything I've seen so far in this campaign and it absolutely has given me a light at the end of a very, very, long tunnel. :-)

I think, for the first time, he actually sounded like a PM. It was very well delivered

 

[hilts]

After the first debate there was something on where they were tracking the audience response to the debate. One of those things where people press if they like something, and if they don't, and the toolmaker story was about the most positive thing on the night.

Harry Cole was on, and he was laughing, but saying that for a lot of people it was actually the first time they've heard it. It's one of those things that the 10% of the population who are actively into politics hear 100 times, and the other 90% are oblivious.

Starmer obviously needs to be programmed to laugh when other people do.

Yeah sorry he doesn't programming he just needs to stop saying, same could be said of Sunak with his my mum was.........

But he's a gonna so who gives a fuck:-)

 

[hilts]

Missed my point somewhere there pal.

Won't be the first time:-)

 

[kaz7]

He has had a good couple of days , bland as fuck but i think the country needs bland now

 

[maxwellblue]

Going to be very careful what he says until he gets into power then Labour are going to really shaft everybody that works, has a car, a pension, a house, more than one house, a nest egg, etc etc.

There, edited for you.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

How many bins will we need to have, is it in the manifesto?

 

[domalino]

for a lot of people it was actually the first time they've heard it. It's one of those things that the 10% of the population who are actively into politics hear 100 times, and the other 90% are oblivious.

I would go as far as to say that the majority of the electorate probably hasn’t heard it yet.

And it is becoming a bit of a joke among people into politics - hence the laughs yesterday - but all that does is draw more attention to something he wants to draw attention to.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

How many bins will we need to have, is it in the manifesto?

I’m alright with 4, but am open to having one look like Count Binface too.

 

[west didsblue]

There, edited for you.

Based on absolutely fuck all except your own prejudices.

 

[Eccles Blue]

I’m alright with 4, but am open to having one look like Count Binface too.

We've got 5 with the food caddy thingymabob. Pink, brown, blue, black and the green caddy. (we're Salford so pink is the corporate colour, it's for garden waste!!)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

We've got 5 with the food caddy thingymabob. Pink, brown, blue, black and the green caddy. (we're Salford so pink is the corporate colour, it's for garden waste!!)

So garden and kitchen waste are separate?

 

[Eccles Blue]

So garden and kitchen waste are separate?

You can put them together but then you'd have to put the tall pink bin out when 9 weeks out of 10 there's only a tiny bag of waste food. So the caddy is easier. I have assisted collection because of my health problems but I can put the caddy out on the wall as it isn't heavy. It's fortnightly collection for all the others apart from pink, pink is every week even during the winter. (Which doesn't make a lot of sense to me because for a lot of time in the winter you wouldn't be gardening would you?_

 

[hilts]

I would go as far as to say that the majority of the electorate probably hasn’t heard it yet.

And it is becoming a bit of a joke among people into politics - hence the laughs yesterday - but all that does is draw more attention to something he wants to draw attention to.

Haha fucking hell, he's getting in, there really is no need to embarrass yourself with that sort of desperate shit.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

You can put them together but then you'd have to put the tall pink bin out when 9 weeks out of 10 there's only a tiny bag of waste food. So the caddy is easier. I have assisted collection because of my health problems but I can put the caddy out on the wall as it isn't heavy. It's fortnightly collection for all the others apart from pink, pink is every week even during the winter. (Which doesn't make a lot of sense to me because for a lot of time in the winter you wouldn't be gardening would you?_

Makes sense. Most round my way have a smaller green caddy as we have our garden/kitchen waste emptied weekly. Our garden is bigger, so we have and tend to fill the bigger green bin each week for 6-7 months a year, just with pruning and grass clippings.