Keir Starmer

He’s a BOT or paid shill 100%, he never seems to comment on football just page after page on Keir Starmer.

Actually apart from " being on holiday and spending all his available time on here", I believe he is a Boris loving , brexit fan, tory.

Hence the bitterness and indoctrination after years of cuntish behaviours, and the realisation that most will now be with Reform and the odious liar and Putin arselicker, Farage.
 
Actually apart from " being on holiday and spending all his available time on here", I believe he is a Boris loving , brexit fan, tory.

Hence the bitterness and indoctrination after years of cuntish behaviours, and the realisation that most will now be with Reform and the odious liar and Putin arselicker, Farage.
It was the Tories who (without a referendum) joined what was then the EC. At the time I was a shop steward for the AEW, AEWU Engineering Union. The then District Council of the union issued a directive to oppose membership of the EC, eventually the pressure told & there was a vote to either stay in or out. Obviously we stayed in, strangely enough nobody knew anybody who voted to stay in EC. Most unions were against the EC because it was deemed (correctly) a bad deal for workers.They said & were proved right that the power of the unions would diminish. By the end of 1974, trade union membership in the United Kingdom reached approximately 11.7 million. Bear in mind the population was 56 million. Today there are 6.4 million trade union members with a population of 68 million. It was also the fear of the TUC, that cheap labour would be available via EC immigration policy reducing the power of collective pay bargaining, again this was proved correct, hence the discontent of union members during the 70’s. After joining the EC inflation was raging at figures never seen before, again this fuelled massive pay claims from the unions. The politicians at the time actually blamed the unions for the inflation, as usual this was propaganda or spin as they call it today. It was the policies of the EC/EU that caused the brutal inflation that touched 20% . The EC/EU has been nothing more than a unmitigated disaster for the working class keeping them firmly in their place whilst the liberal metropolitan elite cashed in like never before. The rich became richer, the poor got even poorer in between Trade union members carried on working creating the wealth for others to enjoy. Little wonder Starmer & the metropolitan elite want another taste of the treasures available. A typical example of this is Neil Kinnock who didn’t have a pot to piss in until he got on the EU gravy train, he is a multi millionaire now. QED
 
He’s a BOT or paid shill 100%, he never seems to comment on football just page after page on Keir Starmer.

I rarely post or comment in the main forum TBF. I’m a season ticket holder and natter football with those who are also season ticket holders around me in a WhatsApp group we have.

I’m also on my hols and sit round the pool reading BM (amongst other shit). Now off to dinner though so it’s good night from me ;)
 


I wish they’d go this hard with Farage & Trump, they really do want him gone.

He had to clarify later on that they were actually accredited photos.

To imply the MSM give Trump a free pass is beyond parody. Most of the population were indoctrinated to despise him before they knew who he was. He is popular in Pittsburgh though, he got the steel workers back to work after mass layoffs caused by Barack Obama who was taking back handers to import cheap inferior steel from China.
 
Exactly! The shit stirring media are bored shitless with him. Fucking policy wonk, with his boring serious detail and getting on with people and not full of gratuitous bile.
Give me a phoney man in the pub who calls a spade a spade whist trousering bungs and planning to shit all over the useful idiots who support him.

If Labour do force Starmer out for some opportunistic prick like Burnham then I am finished with them.
I doubt it will be Burnham.

I can see the "Safe seat" given up to let him in being lost to Reform or The Greens. All they have to do is say the labour man is more concerned about becoming PM than you.
 
Arguably Labour could say that they've been restrained by what the last government left and so have been unable to really do much which is actually partially true. With Starmer there were many comparisons to the likes of Blair but you have to remember that Blair didn't start fixing the country with his ankles tied first. GDP-debt was half then compared to now.

This however paints a far more grim picture then we're prepared to admit because it actually means that there is no need for a government or even an election. Really as a centrist the only choice is to grumble and wait to die, presumably after a 12hr wait in A&E first.

Another poster mentioned stupidity but actually the current government and its approach has been wholly sensible to the point that it has exposed this grimness and encouraged it. The rejection of this reality in favour of fantasy is the problem simply because just like with Brexit there are cold hard truths that aren't readily fixed by populist ideas.
Agreed there are cold hard truths: the country is close to screwed if not screwed already. Radical shake up is needed that would be deeply unpopular with half the population.

This shake-up is coming. It's whether we grasp the challenge head on and manage it ourselves or carry on until events are forced upon us and it will be even worse. I think the latter is most likely. But it's coming. We've papered over the cracks for too long. Taxes are too high, borrowing is too high, welfare spending is too high, money printing is not a solution. We can have a shortish painful reset or a terrible longer, more painful one.
 
I've worked in the Civil Service and am proud to have done so. I worked with many brilliant, hardworking and dedicated colleagues, so you can fuck right off with your Daily Mail cheap shots you ignoramus.
The reason the Civil service is attacked is purely political. They are the literal grease and cogs that keep the countries cogs whirring and politicians hate their impartiality because they can tell them to get fucked. Regardless of whose in power. How do they try and counter that? Argue to the electorate they are red tape that must be cut!

Civil Servants are the real people who give a fuck about keeping the country running. They don't do it for the pay. The ones I know feel its their duty.
 
On holiday, you say and yet you are never off this forum ?

Where did you go Gaza ?
Thanks mate but I'm on the most expensive holiday I've ever had - a cruise with Regent Seven Seas, and came down with flu on Friday, and managed to give it to my wife as well. So we've been stuck in the cabin for 4 days. Hence being on here all the time. Saturday I was in a coma.
 
Sure you don't.
Sure, I don't. I use Perplexity for research because it's designed to scour the web for info and not just make shit up. You should try it. It gives you sources for all the info it provides. It's basically Google but easier to ask questions and, reliable. And free.
 
I’ve never read the Daily Mail in my life and I know of many lazy and untalented Civil Servants and Local Government Officers who have no imagination or worthwhile ideas, just T crossers and I dotters.

I don’t doubt there’s some decent ones, not even arsed you’re blowing your own trumpet but there’s plenty that take a decent salary, have a great pension hardly matched anywhere else and invariably retire very early.

Compare and contrast with someone of the same ability in the private sector and not only are their jobs at risk during difficult economic times they’re also earning far less.

I’ve had the misfortune to deal with some right wankers at the HMRC, from during Covid times when they were working from home and took an eternity to answer the phone. They’re also pretty good at cutting you short when it gets to the stroke of 5pm, that doesn’t happen in the private sector from experience.

I won’t lower myself to a personal comment such as you signed off with, I take it you weren’t employed for your diplomacy and tact, blocked.
You poor sensitive soul. How will I sleep tonight knowing you've blocked me?

You make generalised personal comments about a group of people you've never worked with, and you know nothing about, and when one of those people bites back you have a hissy fit and complain about personal comments aimed at you.

Having worked in both public and private sectors, I can tell you that there are plenty of arseholes in the private sector.
 

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