Ketogenic Diet

Mada-MCFC-adaM said:
When you're in ketosis, after a while you probably won't even want breakfast.

I have a bullet proof coffee in the morning and don't feel hungry until the afternoon.

Lots of people fast for hours, sometimes days, because a fat based diet makes you far less hungry than a carb diet.

When I came out of keto for 10 days in Berlin I was shocked at how hungry I was and how much more I ate after introducing carbs back in.

Today, now I'm back in ketosis, I've been awake since 5am and have only had a bullet proof coffee. I'll go and grab something small to eat at 2pm, and then have a meal this evening.
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So what have you achieved using this eating plan Mada and do you find it sustainable. I presume that when you reach your target weight you increase the carbs to a more healthy level or do you restrict permanently ?

My problem stems from an addiction to cake biscuits ice cream etc and if I have a biscuit then the packet is history and I still go on the hunt and prowl for more. An example with the ice cream was last week I bought in 3 packets of Soloro lollies so 9 in total as they only have 99k calories and after I had a drink at home there was not left in the morning. I am at the moment a heart attack waiting to happen so change I must but not change for any given event but more change my whole dietary thinking and ethos. Like the poem above talking is one thing but walking the walk is another.
 
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Two Gun Bob said:
So what have you achieved using this eating plan Mada and do you find it sustainable. I presume that when you reach your target weight you increase the carbs to a more healthy level or do you restrict permanently ?
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I've lost 3 stone mate, and that was in about the first 9 months or so, riding 8 miles a day (my commute).

I've been keto for a year now and plan to eat like this for the rest of my life (I'm 40) because I love it that much. I have cheat days with beers every so often and then I eat carbs when I'm on holiday. Apart from that I eliminate carbs as much as possible during every day life. I'll have a couple of carrots a week and a sweet potato. I hammer the greens for the magnesium and potassium and other nutrients, and consume lots of salt, as these electrolytes are crucial when you're balls deep in keto.

I don't plan on increasing carbs, but as stated above, I'll indulge on special occasions.
 
Two Gun Bob said:
So what have you achieved using this eating plan Mada and do you find it sustainable. I presume that when you reach your target weight you increase the carbs to a more healthy level or do you restrict permanently ?

My problem stems from an addiction to cake biscuits ice cream etc and if I have a biscuit then the packet is history and I still go on the hunt and prowl for more. An example with the ice cream was last week I bought in 3 packets of Soloro lollies so 9 in total as they only have 99k calories and after I had a drink at home there was not left in the morning. I am at the moment a heart attack waiting to happen so change I must but not change for any given event but more change my whole dietary thinking and ethos. Like the poem above talking is one thing but walking the walk is another.
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Sorry, I didn't reply to the lower part.

I was in the same boat. I used to eat shit loads myself and piled the weight on and felt pretty awful, and didn't realise it was more than likely a sugar and carb overload and my insulin was going nuts trying to control it, and my brain being hooked on sugar.

I just hope you can crack it mate, and that you also enjoy a new lease of life from it and end up feeling incredible. It's not always straight forward and you can feel rough some days, but the overall healthy feeling and mind clarity over rides the bad days.
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Appreciate the help Red and after a coffee will put that on my phone but is it the one with the M on it as there is quite a few. Just come back from Lidl's with the provisions and I must say not overtly expensive . Few examples of value being 5% fat steak mince @ £5.40 a kilo and fresh chicken breast at £5.20 a kilo. Also got some peppered steaks 350 grams for only £2.99 a few buckets of eggs and some mature cheddar for pennies. We also got some of the green in and don't normally visit this isle and as it's all alien it took us a while to disseminate what everything was. I heard someone mention the cauliflower is the potatoe of Keto-Land so I whacked in three of those and also got lettuce and a few tomatoes. The wife said I have to go on the net and find out what to do with these collies as she said she genuinely does not have a scooby doo what to make of them. I confess to buying our fish in the tins to contain the smell and plumped for sardines and herring in brine. Mad up for this at the moment but obviously this will wain when I go into severe withdrawal early this evening.
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The one I use is called Carb Manager: Keto Diet Tracker by Wombat apps. It's a orange "M" inside a green "C" for it's logo.

As for cauliflower, I enjoy it as cauliflower mash (like potatoes) and cauliflower rice. It's good roasted with garlic or garlic salt and olive oil. Some good recipes on the web.
 
better dead than red said:
The one I use is called Carb Manager: Keto Diet Tracker by Wombat apps. It's a orange "M" inside a green "C" for it's logo.

As for cauliflower, I enjoy it as cauliflower mash (like potatoes) and cauliflower rice. It's good roasted with garlic or garlic salt and olive oil. Some good recipes on the web.
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So just boil it like potatoes and then add fresh butter to taste ? I am putting the app on now Red and thanks for the assistance.
 
I think this regime may have been designed around me as there are zero carbs in gin and it's also low in calories at 50 kcal a measure. Inceredible.
 
Mada-MCFC-adaM said:
I've got a new love of spiced rum and sugar free ginger beer. I plan on drowning in it tonight.
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Sounds tip top Adam and a really nice drink is the Rum but never thought of drinking it with ginger beer. I have over the past six months cut down my consumption of alcohol to thrice weekly and I am steady away on that. Just really nice to know a gin and low cal tonic carries no carbs so options abound. Some fair to middling beers with reduced carbs posted a few pages back if the weather gets nice so not all doom and gloom.
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Sounds tip top Adam and a really nice drink is the Rum but never thought of drinking it with ginger beer. I have over the past six months cut down my consumption of alcohol to thrice weekly and I am steady away on that. Just really nice to know a gin and low cal tonic carries no carbs so options abound. Some fair to middling beers with reduced carbs posted a few pages back if the weather gets nice so not all doom and gloom.
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Rum and ginger beer is known as a 'dark and stormy'. Just in case any of you fancy-pants want to order one in your swanky cocktail bars ;-)
 
trotsky said:
Rum and ginger beer is known as a 'dark and stormy'. Just in case any of you fancy-pants want to order one in your swanky cocktail bars ;-)
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Ha ! I could not afford to drink spirits on a night out unless it was at a Spoons. The publicans should hang their heads in shame eternal shame at their mark ups on spirits. A litre bottle of naff Gordons cost to a publican circa £14 and he can get 40 shots out of it yet thinks it fine and dandy to charge around a five spot with a shot of shit tonic. So £186 a bottle gross profit is having folk over for a fat lad and that is why I have to drink ale on a night out because that is priced more considerately. Double the prices or more for a cocktail as that has an umbrella in and is shaken not stirred.. No one denies a man a living but that is a Tom Brown spanking by anyone's thinking. You can get a double Tanq and Tonic at Tim's gaff for only £3.85 .. ...A dark and Stormy you say ?
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Sounds tip top Adam and a really nice drink is the Rum but never thought of drinking it with ginger beer. I have over the past six months cut down my consumption of alcohol to thrice weekly and I am steady away on that. Just really nice to know a gin and low cal tonic carries no carbs so options abound. Some fair to middling beers with reduced carbs posted a few pages back if the weather gets nice so not all doom and gloom.
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It's really nice with ginger beer IMO, as is Bison Vodka.

You're fine with the odd glass of wine too if you're partial to a bit of that, but head for the dryer types. And you think, if you can get used to the keto lifestyle and stay in it long enough for your body to adapt to using fat as it's energy source instead of glucose from carbs, you'll be able to enjoy a few pints of your favourite beer once a week without knocking yourself out of ketosis. (everyone's threshold is different though).
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Ha ! I could not afford to drink spirits on a night out unless it was at a Spoons. The publicans should hang their heads in shame eternal shame at their mark ups on spirits. A litre bottle of naff Gordons cost to a publican circa £14 and he can get 40 shots out of it yet thinks it fine and dandy to charge around a five spot with a shot of shit tonic. So £186 a bottle gross profit is having folk over for a fat lad and that is why I have to drink ale on a night out because that is priced more considerately. Double the prices or more for a cocktail as that has an umbrella in and is shaken not stirred.. No one denies a man a living but that is a Tom Brown spanking by anyone's thinking. You can get a double Tanq and Tonic at Tim's gaff for only £3.85 .. ...A dark and Stormy you say ?
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This is a good article about alcohol on the Keto mate. https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/alcohol

Personally I think that while you're trying to get started (and lose weight) it's best to stay away from it altogether, at least for a couple of weeks.
 
Oh well at least they seem to be having fun : /



Tonight I am having steamed cauliflower avec le grated cheese infused with butter avec la Cumberland sausage
 
Tried this for 2 weeks. Still drinking alcohol but swapped cans of ale for vodka and diet lemonade. Lost a stone in 14 days. On the beer tonight though watching Clone Roses. As far as diets go This Is The One
 
Well after 3 hours of dual sulking the wait to achieve Ketosis is now firmly under way. I deleted those fooked up cauliflower pictures because she got on one as she said putting it on the Moon made it look as if she couldn't cook when it was me who spilled the pepper and all I replied back was there's no-one that could use a microwave like her so now she said I have to cook all my own keto meals or go proper fooking hungry. In fairness there was no instructions anywhere on the packet and it's not an item I will be using again.

If anyone is thinking of having a go then I just found these FAQ pages. What I found interesting was the reference to fats and that saturated is good to go and polyunsatured found in spreads in a no no ......Polyunsaturated fats it says are tricky and there are 2 sides of the story. Processed polyunsaturated fats (like margarine spreads and vegetable oils) are terrible for us, and usually include trans fats. They DO have a causation effect with heart disease and should be avoided. However, there are naturally occurring polyunsaturated fats in foods like fish, which are great for us and will improve cholesterol. It’s your job to seek out the healthy fats and eliminate the unhealthy fats. So now I have to consider throwing out our two tubs of Clover ?

https://www.ruled.me/ketogenic-diet-faq/#how_long
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Well after 3 hours of dual sulking the wait to achieve Ketosis is now firmly under way. I deleted those fooked up cauliflower pictures because she got on one as she said putting it on the Moon made it look as if she couldn't cook when it was me who spilled the pepper and all I replied back was there's no-one that could use a microwave like her so now she said I have to cook all my own keto meals or go proper fooking hungry. In fairness there was no instructions anywhere on the packet and it's not an item I will be using again.

If anyone is thinking of having a go then I just found these FAQ pages. What I found interesting was the reference to fats and that saturated is good to go and polyunsatured found in spreads in a no no ......Polyunsaturated fats it says are tricky and there are 2 sides of the story. Processed polyunsaturated fats (like margarine spreads and vegetable oils) are terrible for us, and usually include trans fats. They DO have a causation effect with heart disease and should be avoided. However, there are naturally occurring polyunsaturated fats in foods like fish, which are great for us and will improve cholesterol. It’s your job to seek out the healthy fats and eliminate the unhealthy fats. So now I have to consider throwing out our two tubs of Clover ?

https://www.ruled.me/ketogenic-diet-faq/#how_long
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Kerrygold butter, delicious and good for you.
 
Wilko food processor and the 1,000 rev motor edition six speeder with interchangeable heads for whipping mixing creaming fluffing blending kneading and your only ever as good as your tools. Only cost £50 with a two year guarantee. Happy days and happy Keto-ing.

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Right that can go back then as it didn't even dent the cauliflower. It came back out of the bowl in a better condition than when it went in .. Pathetic and absolute fooking messer's.
 
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