Kevin De Bruyne 2016/17

Wilf Wild 1937 said:
So you're comparing De Bryune to Messi? Give your head a wobble mate. One is an all time great the other is a very good PL and Bundesliga player who has yet to prove he can do it at the highest level. Hopefully he will but on the evidence of both matches against Madrid he's a long way off.
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No but i am saying you know sod all.

Damn why did i bother coming back to this thread.

Not his best last night but half the comments last night are complete rubbish including yours imo.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
Sevilla, PSG, Everton. Say what you want about the quality of the opposition but they were vital games which he put in a good performance.

I doubt anyone would say he was faultless but people need to stop trying to find a scapegoat and accept that we lost last night (and have been shit at various points this season) as a team.

It not Yaya's fault for being bone idle, it's not Otamendi's for being reckless, Navas' for having no end product, De Bruyne's for not defending from the front or Manuel's for his baffling decisions.

Teams win and lose as a unit. Too often we've looked like a funeral buffet instead of the three course meal we have the ingredients to make.
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Funny that because he didn't even play against Sevilla. It was arguably our best performance of the season. Certainly the best we've played on the counter which is DeBruyne's speciality, and he was dropped for that game.

First 5 games of the season, 5 wins, 0 conceeded. No DeBruyne.

Other than those 6 games our best performances were against Chelsea away and Newcastle at home which he played in both. He was awful in the first half against Newcastle.

So out of our 8 best performances of the season he's played in one and a half of them. Yet people say he is an automatic first choice. Strange.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
Well that makes it even more impressive that he got the winner.

Edit: I haven't said he should be an automatic starter. No player should have that status.
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I think you're talking about a different game. Sevilla away is the game that is widely considered to be our best performance of the season. We won 3-1, goals by Sterling, Fernandinho and Bony. DeBruyne dropped to the bench.

He played in the home leg when he and the team were absolutely dreadful and got the winner after pretty much being slung up front in the last ten minutes as an act of desperation. But he certainly didn't have a good game that night.

I agree, no player deserves a starting place on reputation. It should be earned. But it gets on my wick when people get on their high horse when anyone dares to question DeBruyne.

He's actually very inconsistent. He's had as many abysmal, anonymous games as he has match winning ones. But the fan club tends to forget that. (Not saying you in particular).
 
Shaelumstash said:
I think you're talking about a different game. Sevilla away is the game that is widely considered to be our best performance of the season. We won 3-1, goals by Sterling, Fernandinho and Bony. DeBruyne dropped to the bench.

He played in the home leg when he and the team were absolutely dreadful and got the winner after pretty much being slung up front in the last ten minutes as an act of desperation. But he certainly didn't have a good game that night.

I agree, no player deserves a starting place on reputation. It should be earned. But it gets on my wick when people get on their high horse when anyone dares to question DeBruyne.

He's actually very inconsistent. He's had as many abysmal, anonymous games as he has match winning ones. But the fan club tends to forget that. (Not saying you in particular).
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Yeah I think we're in agreement.

The difficult part is that we've had a season of relying on individual brilliance to scrape by. Seeing as those moments are always going to be few and far between, it's obviously going to lead to inconsistency on an individual and collective basis.

Again, I'm not saying it's the manager's fault or the player's fault or Txiki's fault, it's just a poor effort from almost everyone involved.

On the plus side, we're getting a manager known for his obsessive attention to detail and preparation. When those moments of brilliance don't happen, we will have a plan and hopefully not lose our minds defensively during those periods in between. If the players don't pull their weight, they won't survive; it's that simple.

This will *touchwood* make players like De Bruyne serve a purpose even when things aren't going his way offensively.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
Yeah I think we're in agreement.

The difficult part is that we've had a season of relying on individual brilliance to scrape by. Seeing as those moments are always going to be few and far between, it's obviously going to lead to inconsistency on an individual and collective basis.

Again, I'm not saying it's the manager's fault or the player's fault or Txiki's fault, it's just a poor effort from almost everyone involved.

On the plus side, we're getting a manager known for his obsessive attention to detail and preparation. When those moments of brilliance don't happen, we will have a plan and hopefully not lose our minds defensively during those periods in between. If the players don't pull their weight, they won't survive; it's that simple.

This will *touchwood* make players like De Bruyne serve a purpose even when things aren't going his way offensively.
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Great post mate, I totally agree with you.

We've been relying on individual brilliance throughout Pellegrini's reign. Yaya Toure scored 20 league goals on the way to the title in 2014. A huge amount of them were him just ploughing through the opposition and them not being able to get near him.

Pellegrini actually said in his pre match press conference for the Madrid game that "tactics aren't important, winning is down to the talent of the individual players". He's wrong, and that kind of sums up why he's such a poor manager.

Leicester aren't the most talented individual players in the Premier League. They don't have more talented players than us, but they are 13 points in front. Chelsea have the second most talented squad in the league after us and they're 9th. Real Madrid have had the most expensively assembled team in world football for the last 7 years and they've won the title once.

The teams that are the most successful are the one who has the best TEAM, not just the best collection of technical players. Tactics are a part of it, so is work rate, drive, team spirit, organisation, fitness. But Pellegrini just doesn't get that. He thinks if you play your 11 most talented players in nominally their usual position, that's enough, the rest will take care of itself. That's why he's been so poor for us as a manager and taken us backwards at such an alarming rate.

The talent is in our squad to win the league and really compete in Europe. We just need a manager who can motivate, organise and manage a squad to it's full potential. Thankfully we've got the best one of those arriving in a few weeks time.
 
Terra Passenger said:
Yeah... Ear biter is arguably better, LOL. But both are clearly world class.
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Some people think he's better tbf mate but that's not the point lol

Just because someone gets into the world XI ahead of someone else that's world class it doesn't mean they're not world class it just means they're better
 
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