Kiev

My mate watched it and said that Besiktas were awful at defending corners and crosses, also said that Kiev were sloppy in possession and constantly gave the ball away worse then we did on Tuesday apparently.

To be fair I think on a bad day we're stil better then most teams in this comp, just as long as the team don't think that it'll keep us safe from any upsets.
 
1709 miles if driving. estimated time 31hrs, 40 gallons should get you there so the round trip would cost £480 at 45mpg

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theaa.com/route-planner/index.jsp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theaa.com/route-planner/index.jsp</a>
 
Regarding to this "via Poland" idea of travelling to Kiev...
you can also board a direct all-sleeper train from Warsaw to Kiev. It departs on 3.55pm from Warsaw Central and arrives at 9:13am next day :)
It may be little bit costly, time consuming but TBH that kind of trip is a once-in-a -lifetime experience :)
 
UltraPoland said:
Regarding to this "via Poland" idea of travelling to Kiev...
you can also board a direct all-sleeper train from Warsaw to Kiev. It departs on 3.55pm from Warsaw Central and arrives at 9:13am next day :)
It may be little bit costly, time consuming but TBH that kind of trip is a once-in-a -lifetime experience :)

Been looking at this, any idea what website its on mate?
 
Love the first line. "It's easy to travel from London to Ukraine"!

I'd suggest a cheap flight to Berlin/Warsaw and take it from there.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.seat61.com/Ukraine.htm#Ky%C3%AFv" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.seat61.com/Ukraine.htm#Ky%C3%AFv</a>

Was talking about this the other night...

"Late at night, the train is shunted into the gauge-changing shed at Yagodin (the Ukrainian frontier point) and jacked up to have its wheels changed from standard European (4' 8½") gauge to Russian 5' gauge. You remain on board while this is done".
 

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