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Kolo Toure [Merged]
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i8rags
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antmcfc, you should be in big brother they give out love and stuff at the drop of a hat. this a football forum toughen up and give em hell.
BlueinCumbria
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have you guys seen this?
It's fashionable to criticise Manchester City these days, they're the latest Premier League team to be "Abramovic-ed", however, considering Arsenal's current economic plight The Blues are a godsend for Arsene Wenger.
What other team would willingly stump up £25m for Adebayor? And I doubt many would pay up to £19m (as has been reported today) for Kolo Toure in the current climate either.
Man City's riches have come along at the perfect time for Arsenal, and, so far, considering Wenger has to sell to buy, the manager has made the right selling moves in the transfer market.
Regarding Toure, the defence simply cannot continue as it is, and the Ivorian is a particularly weak link these days. Unfortunately, Toure has to be sold as he won't sit on the bench and Silvestre/Senderos/Eboue won't fetch pittance.
I watched Arsenal's 2008/09 End of Season Review a few days ago, and the amount of goals Arsenal concede from set-pieces is appalling. Not to mention the amount of times they are let off the hook by exceptionally poor defending when any ball is hurled into the box from any angle. It had to be addressed by Wenger, and Wenger appears to be addressing it.
My main concern, obviously, is what Wenger will do with his warchest.
If Wenger is merely "swapping" Toure for Vermaelen, that's a bad move. A lengthy injury to either Gallas or Vermaelen this season and Wenger would be forced to utilise Silvestre (god forbid), Djourou (hmmm) or Senderos (help!) in the centre back position.
The consequences of that would be predictably disastrous.
Wenger has already confirmed he has the Adebayor money to spend and therefore is likely to have the Toure money to spend too. My hope (prayer) is that the manager has already identified his targets and will move for them quickly should the Toure deal go through this week as expected.
Those purchases will need to be a centre back and long-awaited defensive midfielder.
Arsenal do NOT need a striker and I would be fairly surprised if Wenger made an addition up front. Van Persie, Bendtner, Eduardo, Vela should be enough firepower for the Gunners next season, with Walcott and Arshavin also able to play in forward positions too. Buying a centre forward now would stifle Vela and Bendtner who appear to have the sufficient quality to persist with.
Neither can Wenger afford to bring defensive players in late-August. Arsenal have the Champions League qualifiers and tough games at Everton and Manchester United in the league - so a key centre-back injury prior to those games could easily wreck Arsenal's start to the season.
Think back to a few months ago when Arsenal conceded 7 at home to Man Utd and Chelsea in five days. Do you really want a scenario where Senderos, Silvestre or Djourou partners new-boy Vermaelen at Goodison, Old Trafford and perhaps The City Of Manchester Stadium?
One bit of bad luck (ala Nasri) and it could easily happen, so Wenger needs to ensure that should such a scenario arise the squad is strong enough to cope.
After the sale of Toure (and Adebayor), Wenger will not have lack of funding as an excuse, he will live and die by this seasons transfer activity alone and will not be afforded the benefit of the doubt should the squad underachieve in the same manner as it did last season.
Got it from a link on newsnow. Think it tells both sides really well.
It's fashionable to criticise Manchester City these days, they're the latest Premier League team to be "Abramovic-ed", however, considering Arsenal's current economic plight The Blues are a godsend for Arsene Wenger.
What other team would willingly stump up £25m for Adebayor? And I doubt many would pay up to £19m (as has been reported today) for Kolo Toure in the current climate either.
Man City's riches have come along at the perfect time for Arsenal, and, so far, considering Wenger has to sell to buy, the manager has made the right selling moves in the transfer market.
Regarding Toure, the defence simply cannot continue as it is, and the Ivorian is a particularly weak link these days. Unfortunately, Toure has to be sold as he won't sit on the bench and Silvestre/Senderos/Eboue won't fetch pittance.
I watched Arsenal's 2008/09 End of Season Review a few days ago, and the amount of goals Arsenal concede from set-pieces is appalling. Not to mention the amount of times they are let off the hook by exceptionally poor defending when any ball is hurled into the box from any angle. It had to be addressed by Wenger, and Wenger appears to be addressing it.
My main concern, obviously, is what Wenger will do with his warchest.
If Wenger is merely "swapping" Toure for Vermaelen, that's a bad move. A lengthy injury to either Gallas or Vermaelen this season and Wenger would be forced to utilise Silvestre (god forbid), Djourou (hmmm) or Senderos (help!) in the centre back position.
The consequences of that would be predictably disastrous.
Wenger has already confirmed he has the Adebayor money to spend and therefore is likely to have the Toure money to spend too. My hope (prayer) is that the manager has already identified his targets and will move for them quickly should the Toure deal go through this week as expected.
Those purchases will need to be a centre back and long-awaited defensive midfielder.
Arsenal do NOT need a striker and I would be fairly surprised if Wenger made an addition up front. Van Persie, Bendtner, Eduardo, Vela should be enough firepower for the Gunners next season, with Walcott and Arshavin also able to play in forward positions too. Buying a centre forward now would stifle Vela and Bendtner who appear to have the sufficient quality to persist with.
Neither can Wenger afford to bring defensive players in late-August. Arsenal have the Champions League qualifiers and tough games at Everton and Manchester United in the league - so a key centre-back injury prior to those games could easily wreck Arsenal's start to the season.
Think back to a few months ago when Arsenal conceded 7 at home to Man Utd and Chelsea in five days. Do you really want a scenario where Senderos, Silvestre or Djourou partners new-boy Vermaelen at Goodison, Old Trafford and perhaps The City Of Manchester Stadium?
One bit of bad luck (ala Nasri) and it could easily happen, so Wenger needs to ensure that should such a scenario arise the squad is strong enough to cope.
After the sale of Toure (and Adebayor), Wenger will not have lack of funding as an excuse, he will live and die by this seasons transfer activity alone and will not be afforded the benefit of the doubt should the squad underachieve in the same manner as it did last season.
Got it from a link on newsnow. Think it tells both sides really well.
Lomas has a lob on
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is anyone actually outside COMS at the moment waiting too see toure?
Slater582
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UAEking said:bluemoonmatt said:This severance thing is f***ing p***ing me off, you'd have thought after Eto'o, Adebayour etc we would be wise to these and have them sorted before medical by now. That is assuming sky aren't bulls***ing again.
They are mate,remember the chelsea came in for adebayor story they made up?
Didn't Ferguson say they & Chelsea were in for him?
Lomas has a lob on
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no fergie "claimed" ade touted himself to united and chelsea before agreeing to us!Slater582 said:UAEking said:They are mate,remember the chelsea came in for adebayor story they made up?
Didn't Ferguson say they & Chelsea were in for him?
Hope you're right. After the Eto'o thing, i never have a good feeling on this payment thing.Paulmcfc2703 said:lol Adebayor wanted a payment off arsenal as well. Calm downoafc dave said:If that's true, it's not looking good. Let's move on to Mexes and Upson immediately.
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difference is kolo has already agreed terms and had his medicaloafc dave said:Hope you're right. After the Eto'o thing, i never have a good feeling on this payment thing.Paulmcfc2703 said:lol Adebayor wanted a payment off arsenal as well. Calm down
The Fat el Hombre
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Lomas has a lob on said:is anyone actually outside COMS at the moment waiting too see toure?
I got a fone call from sdm on here he says he's outside but there aren't many others
avoidconfusion
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Taylor said:SSN just said the deal may be held up by a severance deal that Toure is owed off Arsenal
Not this again. :(
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oafc dave are you now a blue?
I must admit it looked a bit better having Ade on the near post when we were defending a corner the other day LOL.Project said:We too had a problem with set pieces. But I like to think that Lescott, Barry and Adebayor/RSC would provide some much needed aerial ability when defending corners/freekicks.
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ask him to have a word with someone from city to see if they are expecting him thereThe Fat el Hombre said:Lomas has a lob on said:is anyone actually outside COMS at the moment waiting too see toure?
I got a fone call from sdm on here he says he's outside but there aren't many others
Lomas has a lob on
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lescott is crucial to this, i rememember an interview drogba done on the eve of the fa cup final, now i'd class drogba (on his day) as the most powerful forward in the premiership, and in his interview he stated that the final will be a tough game and how he's always found lescott 1 of his hardest oppenents! thats a good enough recommendation for meProject said:We too had a problem with set pieces. But I like to think that Lescott, Barry and Adebayor/RSC would provide some much needed aerial ability when defending corners/freekicks.
The Fat el Hombre
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Paulmcfc2703 said:ask him to have a word with someone from city to see if they are expecting him thereThe Fat el Hombre said:I got a fone call from sdm on here he says he's outside but there aren't many others
Half 3 he said they were expecting him, that was when he rang me at 14:48
What's this severance shit all about? Surely the deal wouldn't have gone this far if Toure wanted a pay off yet? SSN bullshit surely
southstand117
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i just come back home, was only about 5 people and 4 kids playing footie, it was pissing it down and a couple of workmen outside the main entrance. The barriers was set up but not as normal and no security. i would be surprised if he was going there todayPaulmcfc2703 said:ask him to have a word with someone from city to see if they are expecting him thereThe Fat el Hombre said:I got a fone call from sdm on here he says he's outside but there aren't many others
The Fat el Hombre
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Lomas has a lob on said:lescott is crucial to this, i rememember an interview drogba done on the eve of the fa cup final, now i'd class drogba (on his day) as the most powerful forward in the premiership, and in his interview he stated that the final will be a tough game and how he's always found lescott 1 of his hardest oppenents! thats a good enough recommendation for meProject said:We too had a problem with set pieces. But I like to think that Lescott, Barry and Adebayor/RSC would provide some much needed aerial ability when defending corners/freekicks.
My memory is a little hazy but didn't Drogbe power past Lescott in the air for his first goal?
i8therags said:I must admit it looked a bit better having Ade on the near post when we were defending a corner the other day LOL.Project said:We too had a problem with set pieces. But I like to think that Lescott, Barry and Adebayor/RSC would provide some much needed aerial ability when defending corners/freekicks.
Yep. Remember last season and you had Robinho, SWP, Bellamy, Ireland, Bridge and De Jong all in the same team at places like Stoke. It leaves pretty much just your central defenders and Richards to win the corners.
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thats what i think mate especially if the fans have been told he is on his way to the groundThe Fat el Hombre said:Paulmcfc2703 said:ask him to have a word with someone from city to see if they are expecting him there
Half 3 he said they were expecting him, that was when he rang me at 14:48
What's this severance shit all about? Surely the deal wouldn't have gone this far if Toure wanted a pay off yet? SSN bullshit surely