Kompany Returns from Injury

[tolmie's hairdoo]

MP appears to take little or no notice of other teams, why should Spuds be any different ?

It has seriously pissed me off for a very long time.

I know of no other manager who is so candid in the pre-match presser.

It really is unbelievable. Media can't believe their luck, and neither can our opponents.

Absolutely no need to reveal Sagna and Delph were out, or Silva was available.

It's like he is getting his excuses in first, even though he says he doesn't like to blame injuries.

Even people on here can pretty much guess our team and possible formations based on the personnel available, so goodness knows what highly-paid professional managers and their back room staff can prepare for.

 

[Dax777]

Absolute bollocks, and would have thought you would have appreciated the impact.

Of course Spurs will tailor their game plan in the knowledge Kompany is fit and might play.

People are kidding themselves if you don't think that teams have different variations from set-piece routines based on the defenders they expect to be playing up against.

And there is a huge difference knowing if your striker is going to play right up against an Otamendi or Demichelis, or if more withdrawn because you know Kompany has more pace than the pair of the Chuckle brothers combined.

Similarly, from a mental aspect, seeing Kompany's name on a team sheet has much more impact 45 minutes before kick-offf 48 hours.

By your reasoning, we might as well announce the entire team on a Friday, after all, their players won't change as a result...

Lol. You truly don't believe that do you? As for how Kane will play. Exactly as he always does.

 

[SWP's back]

Lol. You truly don't believe that do you? As for how Kane will play. Exactly as he always does.

He believes that as he's 100% correct. Why did the best manager in the last thirty years always give false information about who was and wasn't available out of interest?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Lol. You truly don't believe that do you? As for how Kane will play. Exactly as he always does.

Stop it, you're embarrassing yourself mate.

You clearly enjoy your football and try to dig a little deeper than your average care bear, that doesn't mean you stay entrenched in a position that is just plain wrong, IMO, so no need to be so patronising.

Kane at a corner kick or set piece, would stand and occupy an entirely different space, based on who the central defenders were tasked with picking him up, as would the flight of the delivery.

Same reasoning, Spurs might well change their midfield game plan based on less legs without Delph.

 

[Dax777]

He believes that as he's 100% correct. Why did the best manager in the last thirty years always give f also information about who was and wasn't available out of interest?

Well then, you'd hate out next manager. Here is what he said in his last presser:

On Arjen Robben's and David Alaba'sfitness - Arjen is fit, so is Alaba, both are available to play.

Fuk!!! I guess he should have waited till the last minute to spring it on the opposition. What a clueless git. Now they can plan for Alaba and Arjren. Jajajajaja.

 

[SWP's back]

Well then, you'd hate out next manager. Here is what he said in his last presser:

On Arjen Robben's and David Alaba'sfitness - Arjen is fit, so is Alaba, both are available to play.

Fuk!!! I guess he should have waited till the last minute to spring it on the opposition. What a clueless git. Now they can plan for Alaba and Arjren. Jajajajaja.

You didn't even attempt to answer my question.

And to even compare Pep's and Pellegrini's tactical preparation before each game is laughable as anyone that knows football would know.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Well then, you'd hate out next manager. Here is what he said in his last presser:

On Arjen Robben's and David Alaba'sfitness - Arjen is fit, so is Alaba, both are available to play.

Fuk!!! I guess he should have waited till the last minute to spring it on the opposition. What a clueless git. Now they can plan for Alaba and Arjren. Jajajajaja.

And does Pep have another 14 players out injured at present, meaning his opponent will know the personnel he can definitely perm from.

Stop grasping to suit your argument.

Lost count the number of derbies down the years where Ferguson said he had ten players out and they all made a miraculous recovery.

 

[Dax777]

Stop it, you're embarrassing yourself mate.

You clearly enjoy your football and try to dig a little deeper than your average care bear, that doesn't mean you stay entrenched in a position that is just plain wrong.

Kane at a corner kick or set piece, would stand and occupy an entirely different space, based on who the central defenders were tasked with picking him up, as would the flight of the delivery.

Same reasoning, Spurs might well change their midfield game plan based on less legs without Delph.

No he would not. They would plan their set pieces to try to get certain players open, who is in fact guarding those players is practically irrelevant. Why? Because they can't predict that. The key is to get your best players at heading or striking the ball open. You do that by running different drills designed to get them open. Not change because Kompany may defend them or not.

Who Kompany defends on a set piece is frankly inconsequential. In as much as it wouldn't change what they do. It might reduce their chances of success. But that's a different matter.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

No he would not. They would plan their set pieces to try to get certain players open, who is in fact guarding those players is practically irrelevant. Why? Because they can't predict that. The key is to get your best players at heading or striking the ball open. You do that by running different drills designed to get them open. Not change because Kompany may defend them or not.

Who Kompany defends on a set piece is frankly inconsequential. In as much as it wouldn't change what they do. It might reduce their chances of success. But that's a different matter.

We will have to agree to differ.

There is a reason Kompany is our best central defender when he is fit.

He is stronger, quicker and more intelligent, he also defends the near post, which is something Otamendi or Demichelis don't or can't do, staying much further back and getting caught under the ball. I would argue Huth would not have been tasked as he was if they had known Vinny was playing.

 

[Dax777]

You didn't even attempt to answer my question.

And to even compare Pep's and Pellegrini's tactical preparation before each game is laughable as anyone that knows football would know.

My apologies. Here in lies the folly of this claim. Because Ferguson did it, doesn't mean it's normal or advantageous. Apparently he downed a glass of wine prior to every game too. I doubt that made any difference either.

And while I didn't answer your question initially, I did not purposely misconstrue your position. I did not compare Pellars to Pep. Just pointed our they both give injury updates at presser. Frankly 90% of all managers do it.

The practice is so ubiquitous that it's shocking to see fans attempting to use it as another sign of Pelegrini sucking.

Look, many of you think Pellars sux. And that is fine. Opinioms and all. But can we stop using ridiculous examples to support that opinion?

This clearly qualifies as a ridiculous example.

 

[City_Sean]

Ignore @City_Sean, he got hounded on Twitter after saying Silva has done nothing substantial for us and should be fucked off. He shithoused out of it and deleted the tweets.

Nobody even hounded me, In fact, people agreed. Never said hed done nothing either so you really need to learn how to read mate

 

[Dax777]

And does Pep have another 14 players out injured at present, meaning his opponent will know the personnel he can definitely perm from.

Stop grasping to suit your argument.

Lost count the number of derbies down the years where Ferguson said he had ten players out and they all made a miraculous recovery.

No he doesn't this time. But when he did, he stated as much too. Coaches have been listing injuries and healthy players for ages. Suddenly, you all seem to think it's an issue.

 

[Dax777]

We will have to agree to differ.

There is a reason Kompany is our best central defender when he is fit.

He is stronger, quicker and more intelligent, he also defends the near post, which is something Otamendi or Demichelis don't or can't do, staying much further back and getting caught under the ball. I would argue Huth would not have been tasked as he was if they had known Vinny was playing.

Yes, I get what Kompany is. And having bhim might improve us on defense, but it wouldn't change how teams run set plays. Huth would have done the same thing he did. You could argue Kompany might have had a better chance of stopping him, but that's a different claim entirely.

 

[SWP's back]

My apologies. Here in lies the folly of this claim. Because Ferguson did it, doesn't mean it's normal or advantageous. Apparently he downed a glass of wine prior to every game too. I doubt that made any difference either.

And while I didn't answer your question initially, I did not purposely misconstrue your position. I did not compare Pellars to Pep. Just pointed our they both give injury updates at presser. Frankly 90% of all managers do it.

The practice is so ubiquitous that it's shocking to see fans attempting to use it as another sign of Pelegrini sucking.

Look, many of you think Pellars sux. And that is fine. Opinioms and all. But can we stop using ridiculous examples to support that opinion?

This clearly qualifies as a ridiculous example.

The difference is that Pep could give you his starting 11 every game and the football world would not have a clue how that team would actually set up.

If Pellegrini did the same, 95% of our forum would be able to tell you how we'd set up.

Ps. I'm a big fan of downing alcohol before a game this season. It deadens the pain a little.

 

[Dax777]

The difference is that Pep could give you his starting 11 every game and the football world would not have a clue how that team would actually set up.

If Pellegrini did the same, 95% of our forum would be able to tell you how we'd set up.

Ps. I'm a big fan of downing alcohol before a game this season. It deadens the pain a little.

So your issue then is not with giving injury updates. Its with Pellars inhetent rigidity. Thanks for making my point. Listing healthy players is a long standing tradition coaches have participated in for eons. To bring it up as another sign Pellars is clueless is asinine.

 

[SWP's back]

So your issue then is not with giving injury updates. Its with Pellars inhetent rigidity. Thanks for making my point. Listing healthy players is a long standing tradition coaches have participated in for eons. To bring it up as another sign Pellars is clueless is asinine.

Combine the two and giving the details is asinine from Pellegrini.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

The difference is that Pep could give you his starting 11 every game and the football world would not have a clue how that team would actually set up.

If Pellegrini did the same, 95% of our forum would be able to tell you how we'd set up.

Ps. I'm a big fan of downing alcohol before a game this season. It deadens the pain a little.

I have a little mantra handy on occasions similar to last weekend. At full time it goes: Where am I? What am I doing here? Can I go home?

 

[Dax777]

So your issue then is not with giving injury updates. Its with Pellars inherent rigidity. Thanks for making my point. Listing healthy players is a long standing tradition coaches have particip
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Combine the two and giving the details is asinine from Pellegrini.

Pellars rigidity is an opinion you and others hold. I doubt Pellar or the facts agree with you. But giving injury reports are good. And a long standing practice.

 

[SWP's back]

Pellars rigidity is an opinion you and others hold. I doubt Pellar or the facts agree with you. But giving injury reports are good. And a long standing practice.

Tell me why it's a good practice?

Also explain to me why Ferguson thought otherwise. You say he drank wine before a game which was just as likely to have a positive effect on his team. Do you believe that?

 

[Nightmare Walking]

The manager announces that our main man, our rock at the back is fit and ready to go. Instead of seeing it as a major boost to morale, the members of Bluemoon moan between themselves and try to find every negative possible about our captains return.
Lets look forward with optimism blues. Whens the last time we had the entire spine of our team fit and together?
We owe Spurs one. They got extremely lucky against us at WHL. We were by far the better team till every dodgy decision and deflection went their way.