Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr Show

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Blue Til Death said:
Wallace's speech yesterday said it all whilst saying nothing, the labour party are once again hell bent on bankrupting the country again...TOGETHER...! He makes Michael Foot look like a fooking political genius.. Ed Milliband, a future Prime Minister... ;-) Not in my lifetime, nor anyone else's either.


Please explain how you can bankrupt a country.

Im sick of hearing this nonsense.


Ed gave a good speech yesterday. Short on policy but long on vision. If you dont agree with his vision for the countries future then i take it you are satisfied with the current Neo Liberal rubbish we are getting.
 
Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Rascal said:
Blue Til Death said:
Wallace's speech yesterday said it all whilst saying nothing, the labour party are once again hell bent on bankrupting the country again...TOGETHER...! He makes Michael Foot look like a fooking political genius.. Ed Milliband, a future Prime Minister... ;-) Not in my lifetime, nor anyone else's either.


Please explain how you can bankrupt a country.

Im sick of hearing this nonsense.


Ed gave a good speech yesterday. Short on policy but long on vision. If you dont agree with his vision for the countries future then i take it you are satisfied with the current Neo Liberal rubbish we are getting.

I would much prefer a speech to be long on policy tbh, anyone can be long on vision, politicians have been doing it for years, i am led to believe he didn't even mention small concerns like the deficit or immigration which seems strange if true
 
Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

hilts said:
Rascal said:
Blue Til Death said:
Wallace's speech yesterday said it all whilst saying nothing, the labour party are once again hell bent on bankrupting the country again...TOGETHER...! He makes Michael Foot look like a fooking political genius.. Ed Milliband, a future Prime Minister... ;-) Not in my lifetime, nor anyone else's either.


Please explain how you can bankrupt a country.

Im sick of hearing this nonsense.


Ed gave a good speech yesterday. Short on policy but long on vision. If you dont agree with his vision for the countries future then i take it you are satisfied with the current Neo Liberal rubbish we are getting.

I would much prefer a speech to be long on policy tbh, anyone can be long on vision, politicians have been doing it for years, i am led to believe he didn't even mention small concerns like the deficit or immigration which seems strange if true

The shadow cabinet speeches all week have long on policy.

Its upto the leader to provide the vision.

You obviously missed the immigration bit, whilst he admitted in a speech made of the cuff a few things were missed out. Balls gave a long speech about the deficit mind. Loved the bit about Osborne who has now borrowed more in four years than all 13 Labour chancellors combined.
 
Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Rascal said:
Blue Til Death said:
Wallace's speech yesterday said it all whilst saying nothing, the labour party are once again hell bent on bankrupting the country again...TOGETHER...! He makes Michael Foot look like a fooking political genius.. Ed Milliband, a future Prime Minister... ;-) Not in my lifetime, nor anyone else's either.


Please explain how you can bankrupt a country.

Don't think it can I would imagine a countries assets will always exceed their liabilities.

Also countries can simply default on its debt just like Argentina. Which is always a winner.
 
Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Rascal said:
hilts said:
Rascal said:
Please explain how you can bankrupt a country.

Im sick of hearing this nonsense.


Ed gave a good speech yesterday. Short on policy but long on vision. If you dont agree with his vision for the countries future then i take it you are satisfied with the current Neo Liberal rubbish we are getting.

I would much prefer a speech to be long on policy tbh, anyone can be long on vision, politicians have been doing it for years, i am led to believe he didn't even mention small concerns like the deficit or immigration which seems strange if true

The shadow cabinet speeches all week have long on policy.

Its upto the leader to provide the vision.

You obviously missed the immigration bit, whilst he admitted in a speech made of the cuff a few things were missed out. Balls gave a long speech about the deficit mind. Loved the bit about Osborne who has now borrowed more in four years than all 13 Labour chancellors combined.

If we had continued with the spending plans of the previous government would we have borrowed more or less than we currently have (over the last 4 years)?

Do you believe that the amount borrowed in the last four years had anything to do with the size of the deficit that was taken over at the start of this term?

Do you believe that if the government had zero deficit at the start of the term that they would have still borrowed the same amount of money?
 
Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

mindmyp's_n_q's said:
If we had continued with the spending plans of the previous government would we have borrowed more or less than we currently have (over the last 4 years)?

Do you believe that the amount borrowed in the last four years had anything to do with the size of the deficit that was taken over at the start of this term?

Do you believe that if the government had zero deficit at the start of the term that they would have still borrowed the same amount of money?


Borrowing this, borrowing that, borrwing someother, maxed out credit, save, save, cut, cut.cut.cut. austerity this austerity that. cut some more.

If Osborne hadnt fucked up the recovery with his savage cuts and idiotic small state ideology we would be much closer to balancing the books as the best way to do it is through growth.

Still his mates got a juicy tax cut and he rushed to Europe to save there bonuses whilst the rest of us have suffered huge cuts.
 
Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Rascal said:
hilts said:
Rascal said:
Please explain how you can bankrupt a country.

Im sick of hearing this nonsense.


Ed gave a good speech yesterday. Short on policy but long on vision. If you dont agree with his vision for the countries future then i take it you are satisfied with the current Neo Liberal rubbish we are getting.

I would much prefer a speech to be long on policy tbh, anyone can be long on vision, politicians have been doing it for years, i am led to believe he didn't even mention small concerns like the deficit or immigration which seems strange if true

The shadow cabinet speeches all week have long on policy.

Its upto the leader to provide the vision.

You obviously missed the immigration bit, whilst he admitted in a speech made of the cuff a few things were missed out. Balls gave a long speech about the deficit mind. Loved the bit about Osborne who has now borrowed more in four years than all 13 Labour chancellors combined.

If you could expand on the policy it would be helpful, from the bits i have heard i have been somewhat underwhelmed, the mansion tax, bankers bonuses,winter fuel allowance and child benefit have left me with a feeling of PR rather than an overall vision
 
Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Rascal said:
mindmyp's_n_q's said:
If we had continued with the spending plans of the previous government would we have borrowed more or less than we currently have (over the last 4 years)?

Do you believe that the amount borrowed in the last four years had anything to do with the size of the deficit that was taken over at the start of this term?

Do you believe that if the government had zero deficit at the start of the term that they would have still borrowed the same amount of money?


Borrowing this, borrowing that, borrwing someother, maxed out credit, save, save, cut, cut.cut.cut. austerity this austerity that. cut some more.

If Osborne hadnt fucked up the recovery with his savage cuts and idiotic small state ideology we would be much closer to balancing the books as the best way to do it is through growth.

Still his mates got a juicy tax cut and he rushed to Europe to save there bonuses whilst the rest of us have suffered huge cuts.

Gawd it makes you wonder what he's done with all this money he's borrowed then. Must have been like a scene from wolf of wall street at the treasury christmas do.
 
Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

hilts said:
If you could expand on the policy it would be helpful, from the bits i have heard i have been somewhat underwhelmed, the mansion tax, bankers bonuses,winter fuel allowance and child benefit have left me with a feeling of PR rather than an overall vision


Im sure at some point in the next 8 months you will recieve plenty of election leaflets explaining each parties stance through your door.


But here is a thought of mine regarding the Mansion Tax. Stockport has some of the wealthiest areas of Gt Manchester yet not one street in Stockport has an average property value of over £1.2m. In actual fact there only 2 streets over £1m.
 
Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Rascal said:
hilts said:
If you could expand on the policy it would be helpful, from the bits i have heard i have been somewhat underwhelmed, the mansion tax, bankers bonuses,winter fuel allowance and child benefit have left me with a feeling of PR rather than an overall vision


Im sure at some point in the next 8 months you will recieve plenty of election leaflets explaining each parties stance through your door.


But here is a thought of mine regarding the Mansion Tax. Stockport has some of the wealthiest areas of Gt Manchester yet not one street in Stockport has an average property value of over £1.2m. In actual fact there only 2 streets over £1m.


The mansion tax is one of the most inane things any party has ever come up, if you want to be known as a bitter party this certainly fits the bill, it really smacks of pure political positioning and doesn't even contemplate trying to have a fair tax policy that people could accept
 

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