Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr Show

[Manchester33]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

I wouldn't mind labour as much if their leader was more charismatic and didn't resemble a person that breast fed until his late teens.

I just can't understand how anyone can think anything other than voting for Conservatives -they're doing a pretty good job. I personally have seen the effects of some of their policy's benefiting me positively, so I suppose I'm more inclined to lean towards them, but in my life time labour have only ever been absolutely gash. I doubt they would make good on these promises.

 

[malg]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

The mansion tax thing needs to be brought in at different rates across the country. If it's £2m in London, then homes over £750k (?) should be in the zone up here, probably £500k in the north east, and about £100k (!) in Scotland. If they didn't stagger it, then it's just a tax on the South, and if I was Cameron I'd play on that. He could probably stand on a platform of Labour being the anti-English party and get a decent majority!

 

[mindmyp's_n_q's]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

If we had continued with the spending plans of the previous government would we have borrowed more or less than we currently have (over the last 4 years)?

Do you believe that the amount borrowed in the last four years had anything to do with the size of the deficit that was taken over at the start of this term?

Do you believe that if the government had zero deficit at the start of the term that they would have still borrowed the same amount of money?

Borrowing this, borrowing that, borrwing someother, maxed out credit, save, save, cut, cut.cut.cut. austerity this austerity that. cut some more.

If Osborne hadnt fucked up the recovery with his savage cuts and idiotic small state ideology we would be much closer to balancing the books as the best way to do it is through growth.

Still his mates got a juicy tax cut and he rushed to Europe to save there bonuses whilst the rest of us have suffered huge cuts.

With an answer like that you must be a politician ;) Ok considering you don't want to address the questions I asked with just your opinion I will ask another one and see if you are prepared to answer that.

Do you believe that if labour had stayed in power and they had continued with their spending plans that the deficit would be lower, we would have borrowed less and that our growth would be higher than it currently is now?

 

[hilts]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

The mansion tax thing needs to be brought in at different rates across the country. If it's £2m in London, then homes over £750k (?) should be in the zone up here, probably £500k in the north east, and about £100k (!) in Scotland. If they didn't stagger it, then it's just a tax on the South, and if I was Cameron I'd play on that. He could probably stand on a platform of Labour being the anti-English party and get a decent majority!

If i buy a house in London for 1.9 mill and then buy a boat, a ferrari, a holiday home in the south of france and get the wife a diamond encrusted vibrator i am not considered rich enough to pay this envy tax, or i could just pay less for a mansion and sort the seller out in a different way to avoid it any tax, it is beyond stupid as a tax plan

Tax people on their income don't tax certain belongings it isn't fair and it is too easy to get around, no wonder people won't vote for these fuckwits, they will be using bankers bonuses next to subside companies taking on the long term unemployed next no doubt

 

[metalblue]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

If you could expand on the policy it would be helpful, from the bits i have heard i have been somewhat underwhelmed, the mansion tax, bankers bonuses,winter fuel allowance and child benefit have left me with a feeling of PR rather than an overall vision

Im sure at some point in the next 8 months you will recieve plenty of election leaflets explaining each parties stance through your door.


But here is a thought of mine regarding the Mansion Tax. Stockport has some of the wealthiest areas of Gt Manchester yet not one street in Stockport has an average property value of over £1.2m. In actual fact there only 2 streets over £1m.

The mansion tax is one of the most inane things any party has ever come up, if you want to be known as a bitter party this certainly fits the bill, it really smacks of pure political positioning and doesn't even contemplate trying to have a fair tax policy that people could accept

Spot on

 

[Len Rum]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Wallace's speech yesterday said it all whilst saying nothing, the labour party are once again hell bent on bankrupting the country again...TOGETHER...! He makes Michael Foot look like a fooking political genius.. Ed Milliband, a future Prime Minister... ;-) Not in my lifetime, nor anyone else's either.

"Not in my lifetime"?
Seem to remember somebody else saying that.
Now let me think.

 

[Rascal]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Do you believe that if labour had stayed in power and they had continued with their spending plans that the deficit would be lower, we would have borrowed less and that our growth would be higher than it currently is now?

After the crash and before the last election the economy was growing. Darling was a steady hand so i believe we would have borrowed less and growth would be higher. Osbornes enforced austerity strangled growth and he didnt do it for economic reasons he did it for ideological reasons.


I still cant get my head around how a country that is the 6th richest in the world has such poverty and inequality and that so many blithly accept it and are willing to vote for more of it.

It does genuinely bewilder me.

 

[Len Rum]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

I wouldn't mind labour as much if their leader was more charismatic and didn't resemble a person that breast fed until his late teens.

I just can't understand how anyone can think anything other than voting for Conservatives -they're doing a pretty good job. I personally have seen the effects of some of their policy's benefiting me positively, so I suppose I'm more inclined to lean towards them, but in my life time labour have only ever been absolutely gash. I doubt they would make good on these promises.

"Labour have only ever been absolutely gash" in your lifetime -that makes you about what - six?
Obviously not, so my guess from your post would be 16?

 

[Len Rum]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

The mansion tax thing needs to be brought in at different rates across the country. If it's £2m in London, then homes over £750k (?) should be in the zone up here, probably £500k in the north east, and about £100k (!) in Scotland. If they didn't stagger it, then it's just a tax on the South, and if I was Cameron I'd play on that. He could probably stand on a platform of Labour being the anti-English party and get a decent majority!

If i buy a house in London for 1.9 mill and then buy a boat, a ferrari, a holiday home in the south of france and get the wife a diamond encrusted vibrator i am not considered rich enough to pay this envy tax, or i could just pay less for a mansion and sort the seller out in a different way to avoid it any tax, it is beyond stupid as a tax plan

Tax people on their income don't tax certain belongings it isn't fair and it is too easy to get around, no wonder people won't vote for these fuckwits, they will be using bankers bonuses next to subside companies taking on the long term unemployed next no doubt

That's a great idea about 'using' banker's bonuses.
A little left wing for me ,but very radical.
Well done.

 

[Blue Til Death]

Re: Labour's Minimum Wage Promise/Millibland on Andrew Marr

Wallace's speech yesterday said it all whilst saying nothing, the labour party are once again hell bent on bankrupting the country again...TOGETHER...! He makes Michael Foot look like a fooking political genius.. Ed Milliband, a future Prime Minister... ;-) Not in my lifetime, nor anyone else's either.

Please explain how you can bankrupt a country.

Im sick of hearing this nonsense.


Ed gave a good speech yesterday. Short on policy but long on vision. If you dont agree with his vision for the countries future then i take it you are satisfied with the current Neo Liberal rubbish we are getting.

Sorry but your appraisal of his speech is woeful at best, how can a pre election speech you deem as good be short on policy exactly?? Are elections not won on ones policies??? Vision you say? vision of what exactly? we will save the NHS we will tax all the nasty rich, do me a favour mate, that's just the politics of envy and stupidity, weasel words said to galvanise a specific element in the party, you know the ones, the happy clappers, the pantomime villain haters....!

The man is totally Inept in every way and you know it. I could easily explain how to technically bankrupt a country but why would I, you already know that being a labour die hard, come what may, your just all too blind to see. I don't particularly care for Cameron and certainly not Clegg but if you expect me to approve of an an idiot like Milliband becoming the Prime Minister, forget it, he is quite simply the worst leader in labour party history bar none, not even Michael Foot. He's a champagne socialist just like the rest of his shadow cabinet.

Despite your labour leanings, are you seriously agreeing with ed that the Tories want to abolish the NHS or make it unfit for use?? That's a ridiculous notion, even my 5 year old could work out that as far as economics are concerned labour are complete and utter failures, if you cannot raise money in the right way and have checks an balances on public spending, you cannot run the country, as has been demonstrated countless times by labour.

My cat can have a vision but without coherent policies and a grasp of economics, you cannot run a country or spend more on the NHS which is in the shit because of poor management not lack of funding.

Ok I'm done, have a good evening.