Laurence Fox launches political party

Apart from the 'safe spaces' are online and not actual physical space?

You'd have to be a pretty big gammon to get worked up over such a thing.

We know that they've changed it to an online safe space: it was posted about 10 pages back. Doesn't make what they originally said any less insulting/backward.

Yeah, Dr King was a right gammon. I'm glad his far-right, anti-segregation marches aren't going on today. They were so divisive.
 
We know that they've changed it to an online safe space: it was posted about 10 pages back. Doesn't make what they originally said any less insulting/backward.

Yeah, Dr King was a right gammon. I'm glad his far-right, anti-segregation marches aren't going on today. They were so divisive.
As you are all for inclusivity

Are you against this safe space

 
We know that they've changed it to an online safe space: it was posted about 10 pages back. Doesn't make what they originally said any less insulting/backward.

Yeah, Dr King was a right gammon. I'm glad his far-right, anti-segregation marches aren't going on today. They were so divisive.

Wasn't it always an online safe space?
I know they had to clarify it cos some right wing gammon got all.....what's that word?.....snowflakey about it.

Imagine being so insecure and bigoted that you'd be against anything that helps to protect minorities and races that face regular abuse and discrimination.
 
Imagine being so insecure and bigoted that you'd be against anything that helps to protect minorities and races that face regular abuse and discrimination.

Imagine being so insecure and bigoted that you were against white and black people mixing in the same space. You see, it works both ways this but being honest, I don't think the majority of people who support this kind of thing are bigoted (and only you know if the shoe fits in that respect), I just think they think they're being empathetic when the actual reality is, this is a terrible, divisive idea that panders to racism more than it prevents it and panders to the provably false idea that you're safer - physically or emotionally - with members of your own race than with other races.
 
As you are all for inclusivity

Are you against this safe space


Good question.

If this was to be a 'safe space' in respect of turning kids away or not helping those who were abused at the hands of other faiths or their parents, that would be a pretty shitty way to operate a victim support service and I'm not sure they should be given charitable status. If the wording was, 'a safe space for victims of child abuse, with a particular focus on those abused by the CofE' then I think it's a great initiative.

I don't know if you're drawing a comparison here or just testing the water to see what safe spaces I find acceptable but if it's the former, I'd make the obvious point that black people aren't automatically victims by virtue of their skin colour therefore unless they've actually been racially abused or wrongly treated then the need for a segregated space isn't the same as it would be for a victim of child abuse.
 
Imagine being so insecure and bigoted that you were against white and black people mixing in the same space. You see, it works both ways this but being honest, I don't think the majority of people who support this kind of thing are bigoted (and only you know if the shoe fits in that respect), I just think they think they're being empathetic when the actual reality is, this is a terrible, divisive idea that panders to racism more than it prevents it and panders to the provably false idea that you're safer - physically or emotionally - with members of your own race than with other races.

From comments I've read here and elsewhere it seems to be only right wingers with any kind of issue with this....wonder why that is?

Everyone else just takes it for what it is.

If you find yourself agreeing with the odious cretin that is Fox then said person is a lost cause.
 
From comments I've read here and elsewhere it seems to be only right wingers with any kind of issue with this....wonder why that is?

Everyone else just takes it for what it is.

If you find yourself agreeing with the odious cretin that is Fox then said person is a lost cause.

The problem is, if everyone 'just took things for what it is' and went along like sheep with whatever demands were claimed to be in the interests of any particular minority, society would be far more divided and far more unjust than ever before.

I actually think we've had that opinion earlier in the thread and it was just as stupid then as it is now. Being against whatever ridiculous demand has come from BLM or their ilk doesn't make you a gammon or a **** or whatever else, it just means you've probably engaged your brain to think that actually, abolishing the police or segregation along racial lines or abolishing capitalism might not actually be a good idea and if you think it is, you're probably a bit of a twat yourself.
 

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