League or Champions League?

[Manchester33]

Ramos wasn't sent off only booked deliberately to miss 2nd leg. How many decisions went against us in both legs of the dippers game last season let alone the coach fiasco!

The Liverpool games were shocking. The difference now is that we have VAR.

If those games had VAR and they still:

- gave their offside goal
- disallowed our onside goal
- didn't give the Sterling penalty
- Disallowed the goal that was passed back by their player

Then we could say they were outright cheating. With VAR there is no chance that would happen.

Also worth mentioning that VAR might have ruled out our first goal in the second leg for Sterling push on VVD (not saying it was a foul, just that it was contentious).

Those games were shocking and were either incredibly incompetent refereeing or bent. The introduction of VAR makes me think it's the former though, and I don't see why UEFA would be keen to introduce something that clearly hampers their efforts to control results?

Also, my original point is about us v Schalke. You could argue Liverpool are a bigger club and a bigger draw for UEFA's later stages. You cannot give me one solid motive that UEFA may have to encourage them to aid Schalke through ahead of us.

Coach fiasco is irrelevant to UEFA. Completely down to Merseyside police. Surely no one assumes UEFA were involved in that?

 

[OB1]

Don't City get the gate receipts from the home games?

And huge amounts of TV money.

 

[OB1]

I can't believe some of the comments on here. Talk about small time mentality. Do you seriously think Kompany Silva and Aguero joined us to be appeased by winning a back to back league title? They want to win the big pot, It is called ambition. However corrupt UEFA are, I want to see us win the champions league, this season if possible.

Not read a lot of the thread but we all know the attitude of a lot of supporters to the UCL, much of them I do find bizarre. The UCL is currently the most prestigious prize in club football and it is rightly a priority target for the club. The sooner we win it, the better.

The two competitions are not mutually exclusive so I just want to win both. I'd be equally happy to win either but I would say that I would be more disappointed not to win the league because that is the one that we play in week in week out so it is a more meaningful test of performance plus it's against rivals whose supporters you actually work and socialise with.

 

[Bill]

We all know UEFA are shit, but come on. Some of you need to remove the tin foil hats!


bigger draw for the neutral. I don't understand what motive would encourage them to risk the entire credibility of the sport in order to force us out at this stage?

they don't have any to risk. nor shame.

 

[bluemoon32]

We all know UEFA are shit, but come on. Some of you need to remove the tin foil hats!

PSG's chairman is on the board of UEFA. He's backed by some of the wealthiest people on the planet. Why were his team eliminated by VAR last night? If they were clearly wanting United to go through, why did Pogba get sent off in the first leg?

Real Madrid are the ultimate UEFA club. They're a huge money making machine, the biggest club in the world. Why did that VAR decision go against them v AJAX? Why did Ramos get sent off in the first leg?

We played against Schalke, and yes, the penalty incident and the red card were both dubious (more so because we were on the wrong side of both), but do you really think UEFA would prefer Schalke in the last 8 compared to a team managed by Pep Guardiola, who've stormed the biggest league in the world and broke tons of records. We're way more marketable than Schalke, we're a bigger draw for the neutral. I don't understand what motive would encourage them to risk the entire credibility of the sport in order to force us out at this stage?

I know, the level of paranoia on here is dipper like

 

[KDBtojesus]

This is a tough one as you do get far more credit for winning the champions league.

 

[IT and Me]

Ajax aren't even top of the Dutch league. Tadic tore Real apart when he was nothing more than a good player at Southampton. We should just pack up and quit the CL now if we don't fancy our chances against the likes of Ajax.

I didn't say that. I expressed an opinion based on what I saw over the 2 legs nothing more; that, given the choice, I would prefer to avoid them for now - not that I didn't fancy our chances against them. As far as the fact that they're not top of the Dutch League, Lyon weren't top of their League either and they were a handful in both legs during the group stages. I repeat, I would prefer to avoid them for now.

 

[KDBtojesus]

Is it wrong to say the only team that worries me is atletico?

 

[Dax777]

Is it wrong to say the only team that worries me is atletico?

After watching PSG and Real get bundled out at home with leads from the away fixture, I'd say Schalke is who worries me the most now.

 

[KDBtojesus]

After watching PSG and Real get bundled out at home with leads from the away fixture, I'd say Schalke is who worries me the most now.

If we get through of course, not good to look to far ahead i know