This season, yes. But if you compare Sterling's best season, the one with Uruguayan, that season was better than Sane's best.That's the beauty though, being soft or over playing are probably 2 of the easiest things to rectify in a young player. Cristiano Ronaldo was both. Sane has the ability in spades, don't care what anyone says but I'm 100% of the belief that Sane is better than Sterling and will always be better.
Well, you don't need to see too much more. You've described him quite accurately. He has Kelechi's overeliance on the left foot disease. His vision is quite good. The more I think of it. He is a lot like Kelechi. Except being a winger, a bit faster, better dribbler, and not as good in front of goal.How does he compare to Roberts? Not seen much of Sane, but from the videos available all I can think of is a good dribbler with decent speed who's very left footed but still pretty raw on the end product - looks like a German version of our own Roberts. Given that Roberts is younger I'm not sure I've seen what must be drawing us to him.
Sane with 9 goals 7 assists in 42. Roberts with 6 goals & at least 2 assists (games I've seen; whoscored doesn't count assists in his matches for some reason) in 11. Obviously different standard of leagues but still, a comparison point nonetheless.
This season, yes. But if you compare Sterling's best season, the one with Uruguayan, that season was better than Sane's best.
Yes, Sane seems to have more technical capabilities, but let's not rush to crown him just yet. 3 years from now both should be rounding into their peak, when the truly good pull away from the potential. We'd know for sure then.
Right now they are both inconsistent kids with high potential.
Well yeah, I was using Sane's age as the base. He is 19. So in 3 years we'd know if he is better.Well I would argue that it is slightly sooner than players really pull away from just potential. Ronaldo, Bale, Rooney, Aguero, Dybala, Pogba, Hazard etc really pulled away around 22 years of age. I think next season is make or break for Sterling. If he can't produce moments of brilliance and doesn't show that he can be a special player, then I doubt he will ever be world class.
Well yeah, I was using Sane's age as the base. He is 19. So in 3 years we'd know if he is better.
people forgot how good he was at loserpoolSane is not currently a better player than Sterling was at Liverpool. In fact he's not as good.
Great prospect, plenty of flaws currently. Imo Barker would be as good or better if he'd been promoted to first team football at the same time & IF he had the same desire, which we don't know because it never happened. Sane is now miles ahead because he plays proper football every week, as is happening with Rashford etc & even Jack Byrne.
Biggest difference between him & Roberts ? Pace.
Would be an exciting signing but no guarantees with it. Would effectively be playing a kid in the team with all the ups & downs that entails.
Don't see it being much use comparing him to Kelechi though as they play in different roles. Kelechi has the finishing that he needs to be a striker & Sane has the trickery to be a winger - that's why I was asking about Roberts, seem much more comparable considering they're both lefties playing an inside forward role on the right wing. From the 10 minutes of videos I've seen Sane doesn't appear much different, other than the height advantage, so I was wondering why we'd be so keen on him as we'll have what seems a replica back for the 2017/18 season.Well, you don't need to see too much more. You've described him quite accurately. He has Kelechi's overeliance on the left foot disease. His vision is quite good. The more I think of it. He is a lot like Kelechi. Except being a winger, a bit faster, better dribbler, and not as good in front of goal.
people forgot how good he was at loserpool
My thoughts also.They seem incredibly similar.Don't see it being much use comparing him to Kelechi though as they play in different roles. Kelechi has the finishing that he needs to be a striker & Sane has the trickery to be a winger - that's why I was asking about Roberts, seem much more comparable considering they're both lefties playing an inside forward role on the right wing. From the 10 minutes of videos I've seen Sane doesn't appear much different, other than the height advantage, so I was wondering why we'd be so keen on him as we'll have what seems a replica back for the 2017/18 season.
Where Sterling hopefully resides. Maybe he can be our new left back, can't be any worse at defending than Kolarov & looks much better on the ball... :-PMy thoughts also.They seem incredibly similar.
Is the idea one can be converted to the opposite flank?
Based on Sterling 2 years ago vs Sane this year, how would you have rated their chances?I think he's turned 20 a few months back. Anyway, I'd rate his chances for making it to the top greater than Sterling's based on this year.
Don't see it being much use comparing him to Kelechi though as they play in different roles. Kelechi has the finishing that he needs to be a striker & Sane has the trickery to be a winger - that's why I was asking about Roberts, seem much more comparable considering they're both lefties playing an inside forward role on the right wing. From the 10 minutes of videos I've seen Sane doesn't appear much different, other than the height advantage, so I was wondering why we'd be so keen on him as we'll have what seems a replica back for the 2017/18 season.
My thoughts also.They seem incredibly similar.
Is the idea one can be converted to the opposite flank?
Based on Sterling 2 years ago vs Sane this year, how would you have rated their chances?
Well, I have only seen 2 games with Barker, and lots of videos from when he was younger and seemed way better than his age mates. But from what I've seen they both have similar technical skill sets (Barker probably has more tricks up his sleeve, if you go buy his youth videos) but Sane has better presence of mind, and understanding of movement and angles.Don't see it being much use comparing him to Kelechi though as they play in different roles. Kelechi has the finishing that he needs to be a striker & Sane has the trickery to be a winger - that's why I was asking about Roberts, seem much more comparable considering they're both lefties playing an inside forward role on the right wing. From the 10 minutes of videos I've seen Sane doesn't appear much different, other than the height advantage, so I was wondering why we'd be so keen on him as we'll have what seems a replica back for the 2017/18 season.
This is why I've consistently argued that Winger is our biggest need, if Pep's history is a blueprint.If you look at Bayern though they have Robben, Ribery, Costa an Coman for the wide positions if we are playing something like a 433 we would want more than just 2 players for those positions left and right of Aguero or Iheanacho in the middle. I wouldn't really include De Bruyne as I expect him or Silva to be at the top of the midfield 3.
They're all quite different players though & have clear age differences. Ribery/Robben are now old, Costa/Coman are younger replacements & play quite different styles. Agree that we'd clearly need more than 2 wingers, but having 2 that seem so similar & such a similar age would seem a bit strange - neither will be fully developed players next season, would rather have a player in/nearing his peak & let Roberts be the understudy.If you look at Bayern though they have Robben, Ribery, Costa an Coman for the wide positions if we are playing something like a 433 we would want more than just 2 players for those positions left and right of Aguero or Iheanacho in the middle. I wouldn't really include De Bruyne as I expect him or Silva to be at the top of the midfield 3.
Barker is absolutely nowhere near the level required and will never be. He's heralded as some wonder kid on here yet I've never seen anything to suggest this.
Well, I have only seen 2 games with Barker, and lots of videos from when he was younger and seemed way better than his age mates. But from what I've seen they both have similar technical skill sets (Barker probably has more tricks up his sleeve, if you go buy his youth videos) but Sane has better presence of mind, and understanding of movement and angles.
This is what often differentiates the great from the good 4 years down the line. Those who get football and see the field outside of themselves often outperform similarly talented players ( or sometime more talented players) who thrive on their talent when they have the ball.
For example, there were probably 100 kids technically better than Mueller at 15-16. But what he had (spatial understanding) guaranteed he was always going to leave mist of them behind once they hit their 20s.
I'm not saying this is the case here, as I haven't seen enough of Barker. But often that's where the difference lies.
Sadly, I have long ago concluded that it is not in the best interest of young players to Join top clubs.I think the biggest difference was that Sane was instantly rewarded for his excellent performances whilst he was at his best & immediately went up a level, thus playing with sharper players & learning, wheras Barker was ignored & actually lost a bit of form as the season went on hence why so many were writing him off in direct comparison with Sane, when Barker was a bit shit on the day. Since then has kind of stood still a bit whilst Sane has gone from strength to strength. Whether he can get back on track again I've no idea but in ability I think there is little difference.
This season, yes. But if you compare Sterling's best season, the one with Uruguayan, that season was better than Sane's best.
Yes, Sane seems to have more technical capabilities, but let's not rush to crown him just yet. 3 years from now both should be rounding into their peak, when the truly good pull away from the potential. We'd know for sure then.
Right now they are both inconsistent kids with high potential.