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wantefc said:
Blue Mooner said:
If Moyes sticks to his guns and keeps a player that doesn't want to be there then he is only making a rod for his own back.

Any future signing with great potential that may in the future want to progress to a top 4 or Real Madrid type team will not want to commit himself to Everton for any great length of time for fear of being tied to their contract, therefore Everton will never get top fees for future signings.

It could also have the consequence that Potential future stars - lets not forget in a very competitive market - will decide not to ever consider Everton due to the belligerent stance of Moyes who is basically blocking a player from doubling his salary and bettering his situation for himself and his family. Quite frankly it couldn't happen in any other line of business.

Why would any player want to join a club that treats it's players like that ? Those that have given good service and a potential profit and they are stopped from doing so ! Everton might not like it but that is how the likes of Spurs, West Ham have built their whole strategy on developing good young talent and selling them on - even Man U. It's only clubs like ours with a seriously rich owner that don't have to do that.

So instead of being sensible and thinking about the long term future of Everton where Moyes could take the money, find a decent replacement and strengthen his options up front, instead, he is determined to keep an unhappy player. Ridiculous. This could be Lescotts only chance of joining a club that can seriously challenge for top honours and pay the money Everton are looking for. He is tantamount to a slave.

Why would a Rodwell for example or another of their youngsters commit himself to Everton when he knows that he could be blocked from a dream or money busting move in the future - he wouldn't - this is so short sighted.

I really think we should stick out for Lescott as any other decision other than to sell him would be plainly stupid on Evertons part.


Oh no!!! if we dont roll over for city...we might never sign anyone again!!! Get real mate...believe it or not there are clubs out there where the players earn less than Everton so we may be able to sign some of them......for the same reason Lescott wants to go to City. I actually want him to go , since the transfer request but the more i read about it the more im convinced we aint selling.

Evening mate, like ive said before, football contracts mean jack shit in reality, in fact the only reason they are there is that they gaureentee, the selling club a fee at the end of the day, hence these new founded buy out clauses/Transfer trigger fee's.

You can not keep an unhappy player, it is never going to work, EFC know this and they have done all along, we are nearly at the end of this now and i think that you EFC fans that have very loyally, backed Moyes 100%, and quite rightly so, are going to be evry very pissed off.
 
Everton, we have parked our tank on your lawn and we are firing £s at you. Give up, there really is nothing you can do. Hand him over and walk away or we'll be back and next time it's Arteta :-)
 
blueinsa said:
wantefc said:
Oh no!!! if we dont roll over for city...we might never sign anyone again!!! Get real mate...believe it or not there are clubs out there where the players earn less than Everton so we may be able to sign some of them......for the same reason Lescott wants to go to City. I actually want him to go , since the transfer request but the more i read about it the more im convinced we aint selling.

Evening mate, like ive said before, football contracts mean jack shit in reality, in fact the only reason they are there is that they gaureentee, the selling club a fee at the end of the day, hence these new founded buy out clauses/Transfer trigger fee's.

You can not keep an unhappy player, it is never going to work, EFC know this and they have done all along, we are nearly at the end of this now and i think that you EFC fans that have very loyally, backed Moyes 100%, and quite rightly so, are going to be evry very pissed off.


Barry had a good season at Villa when wanting away!!
 
Timbobs said:
wantefc said:
Oh no!!! if we dont roll over for city...we might never sign anyone again!!! Get real mate...believe it or not there are clubs out there where the players earn less than Everton so we may be able to sign some of them......for the same reason Lescott wants to go to City. I actually want him to go , since the transfer request but the more i read about it the more im convinced we aint selling.


He has a point, after seeing how Moyes is acting in this affair, why would a player, who in respect to Everton, use them to get noticed by bigger teams such as Sky Four or on mainland, even think about signing a 5 year deal with Everton. With Everton's limited resources, these are the players they would try and pick up, though will they take the risk with Everton now?

I don't think he is saying what you gross over reaction in implying, that Everton won't somehow sign players, what he is saying is would the likes of Elm want to join a club, which he would more than likely want to be a stepping stone, if he would be refused that step.

If I were an Everton player, seeing how Lescott is being treated, I would feel like a prisoner, looks like Cahill looks at it the same way.


You could actually flip the arguement and say why would players come to a club with no ambition, because the way i see it if we fight for our better players it shows more ambition than selling them.
 
wantefc said:
Timbobs said:
He has a point, after seeing how Moyes is acting in this affair, why would a player, who in respect to Everton, use them to get noticed by bigger teams such as Sky Four or on mainland, even think about signing a 5 year deal with Everton. With Everton's limited resources, these are the players they would try and pick up, though will they take the risk with Everton now?

I don't think he is saying what you gross over reaction in implying, that Everton won't somehow sign players, what he is saying is would the likes of Elm want to join a club, which he would more than likely want to be a stepping stone, if he would be refused that step.

If I were an Everton player, seeing how Lescott is being treated, I would feel like a prisoner, looks like Cahill looks at it the same way.


You could actually flip the arguement and say why would players come to a club with no ambition, because the way i see it if we fight for our better players it shows more ambition than selling them.

There is no ambition in keeping a player who does not want to play for you anymore. You will be better off selling him than keeping him tbh.
 
Barry had a good season at Villa when wanting away!!

Not according to many villa fans. There form was shocking after christmas as well. I know a couple of villa fans and they were very much of the opinion he turned it on against the big sides thats about it. Was still about their best player despite being unhappy and unsettled !
 
I doubt Everton will force a player who wants to leave to stay at the club. It's just about getting the best deal now.

I'd be very disappointed if I were in Lescott's shoes and the manager prevented me from taking up the opportunity when EFC stand to make a lot of money on the deal.
 
Timbobs said:
wantefc said:
Oh no!!! if we dont roll over for city...we might never sign anyone again!!! Get real mate...believe it or not there are clubs out there where the players earn less than Everton so we may be able to sign some of them......for the same reason Lescott wants to go to City. I actually want him to go , since the transfer request but the more i read about it the more im convinced we aint selling.


He has a point, after seeing how Moyes is acting in this affair, why would a player, who in respect to Everton, use them to get noticed by bigger teams such as Sky Four or on mainland, even think about signing a 5 year deal with Everton. With Everton's limited resources, these are the players they would try and pick up, though will they take the risk with Everton now?

I don't think he is saying what you gross over reaction in implying, that Everton won't somehow sign players, what he is saying is would the likes of Elm want to join a club, which he would more than likely want to be a stepping stone, if he would be refused that step.

If I were an Everton player, seeing how Lescott is being treated, I would feel like a prisoner, looks like Cahill looks at it the same way.

Thanks Timbobs that's exactly what I am saying, when the best talent become availabe and have a choice of a number of clubs, this type of treatment of Lescott may make them choose another club over Everton.

I'm not dissing Everton, they're a big club but unfortunatley for them they are in the situation we were in before the Sheikh bought us in that they don't have the necessary resources to compete with the top 4. Everton are a victim of circumstance.

Why they are not treating Lescott in the same way they treated Wayne Rooney is beyond me.
 
Cobwebcat said:
Everton, we have parked our tank on your lawn and we are firing £s at you. Give up, there really is nothing you can do. Hand him over and walk away or we'll be back and next time it's Arteta :-)

Do you know, that statement is one of the things that is pissing me off about certain City fans on here, and one of the reasons I decided to post in the first place. FFS get a grip, quite gloating and remember when we all thought Billy Sharp was going to be a great signing - oh, and it was only 3 years ago.
 
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