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ToffeeAndy said:
Mike D said:
I've had enough of hearing about this overated carthorse. A 100k a week Ned + £30m you've gotta be having a laugh. Ned is far superior to this guy never mind the 100k a week, the more ridiculous it sounds.

WTF is going on his arse goes when he plays for England this guy is sh*t


I'd say you know nothing, however its clear you know even less then this!

He's had one good season and granted hardly enough to start saying he's £25-£30m and you can keep your shirt and take ours
 
Project said:
Probably best keeping hold of that info Didsbury.

You're probably right Project.

I'm just getting a bit cheesed off with these flat-earth Everton fans denying the facts.
 
Though if you wish to PM my good self the text of said email with full source headers to confirm its legitimacy, I would be much obliged :-)
 
Matty said:
Darker shade of Blue said:
This is Everton football club , not Accrington Stanley we're talking about here .

A club who are very close to launching a realistic challenge on both the top 4 , and all cup competitions , and are proven as being up there on merit and not by fluke . I'm sure they would sell if City offered a monsterous amount , but that is unlikely to happen unless City get desperate . One thing that is very unlikely to happen is Everton accepting a ' good ' offer , as the whole point of a transfer market is to keep what is working and sell what isn't , and strengthen any weaknesses .
We have a few places that need strengthening , and our budget determines how many of those places , and how strong a replacement we can get . No way will we sell ' what is working ' unless we can find something else that works well AND strengthen another position or two in the deal .
Those that think City will get Lescott easily without Moyes putting up a huge resistance are more than simply optimistic . Should another club come in for him , especially one of the big European clubs , then City have a major headache , as with respect , he is unlikely to choose Sunny Manchester over sunny Spain or Italy .
Everton can offer European football , a realistic challenge , and a guaranteed starting place , and with the World Cup around the corner , he will not want to risk anything .

Forget so called ITK's . No way will any decisions be made unless Everton say so , and the only thing we know for sure is that so far , they have said NO .

Just a couple of points:-

1 - The ITK of which I speak was passing on information related to Lescott's wishes/intentions. Obviously this is just what the player wants to happen and not what Everton want to happen. It is unusual however (although not unprecidented) for a player to be prevented from moving on if he has his heart set on it, especially when multi-million pound offers are in for him.

2 - I can understand the bravado but, seriously, Everton are not "very close to launching a realistic challenge on both the top 4 , and all cup competitions". It's just that simple. Without HUGE sums of cash you can't break the top 4, it's impossible, at least with regularity. You managed it once a few years back, but couldn't build upon that. I'm not having a dig at Everton, or Villa or Spurs for that matter, it's just a simple fact. City are the only club capable of breaking into the top 4 monopoly, and that's only becasue of our extremely wealthy owners.

I'd be very surprised if the only person who knew Lescotts thoughts at the time of these so called ITK's were Lescott himself . It also tickles me that Didsbury Dave quotes Davey Harrison ( our secretary ) as being his source . I'm not saying Dave is a liar , and he may well have had a conversation with Davey , but Dave Harrison , and indeed any Everton player for that matter would not be able to categorically state what is going to happen .
All they could do is pass their opinion on the matter .

The only person who knows exactly what is going to happen is David Moyes , not even Joleon Lescott .

And Matty , I'm not sure how you can say Everton aren't close to launching a realistic challenge on the top 4 and the cups . How close does a team have to be to be any closer m8 ?
Does not a top 4 place already , 2 5th place finishes , and a semi final and final appearance in the cups merit the title ' close ' ?

We've done it , and continue to do it bud .
We do it on the field , and not in the forums . If City go on to be successful , and good luck to them if they do , then by all means then add City to the list of contenders , but at the moment , Hughes is making a soup , and nobody has a clue what it will tase like untill it is served .
The Everton soup tastes wonderful I believe . We know this because it is a proven recipe and we've all tasted it . At the moment , City are still in the kitchen m8 . Your mouth might be watering at the table at the smell , and who can blame you , but the term ' proof is in the pudding ' comes into play here .
 
Darker shade of Blue said:
Matty said:
Just a couple of points:-

1 - The ITK of which I speak was passing on information related to Lescott's wishes/intentions. Obviously this is just what the player wants to happen and not what Everton want to happen. It is unusual however (although not unprecidented) for a player to be prevented from moving on if he has his heart set on it, especially when multi-million pound offers are in for him.

2 - I can understand the bravado but, seriously, Everton are not "very close to launching a realistic challenge on both the top 4 , and all cup competitions". It's just that simple. Without HUGE sums of cash you can't break the top 4, it's impossible, at least with regularity. You managed it once a few years back, but couldn't build upon that. I'm not having a dig at Everton, or Villa or Spurs for that matter, it's just a simple fact. City are the only club capable of breaking into the top 4 monopoly, and that's only becasue of our extremely wealthy owners.

I'd be very surprised if the only person who knew Lescotts thoughts at the time of these so called ITK's were Lescott himself . It also tickles me that Didsbury Dave quotes Davey Harrison ( our secretary ) as being his source . I'm not saying Dave is a liar , and he may well have had a conversation with Davey , but Dave Harrison , and indeed any Everton player for that matter would not be able to categorically state what is going to happen .
All they could do is pass their opinion on the matter .

The only person who knows exactly what is going to happen is David Moyes , not even Joleon Lescott .

And Matty , I'm not sure how you can say Everton aren't close to launching a realistic challenge on the top 4 and the cups . How close does a team have to be to be any closer m8 ?
Does not a top 4 place already , 2 5th place finishes , and a semi final and final appearance in the cups merit the title ' close ' ?

We've done it , and continue to do it bud .
We do it on the field , and not in the forums . If City go on to be successful , and good luck to them if they do , then by all means then add City to the list of contenders , but at the moment , Hughes is making a soup , and nobody has a clue what it will tase like untill it is served .
The Everton soup tastes wonderful I believe . We know this because it is a proven recipe and we've all tasted it . At the moment , City are still in the kitchen m8 . Your mouth might be watering at the table at the smell , and who can blame you , but the term ' proof is in the pudding ' comes into play here .


Everton are about £50-100m from being a top four club.
 
Darker shade of Blue said:
I'd be very surprised if the only person who knew Lescotts thoughts at the time of these so called ITK's were Lescott himself . It also tickles me that Didsbury Dave quotes Davey Harrison ( our secretary ) as being his source . I'm not saying Dave is a liar , and he may well have had a conversation with Davey , but Dave Harrison , and indeed any Everton player for that matter would not be able to categorically state what is going to happen .
All they could do is pass their opinion on the matter .

The only person who knows exactly what is going to happen is David Moyes , not even Joleon Lescott .

A very naive point of view. Moyes make talk the talk, but the reality is that he will not be able to hold on to ANY player who wishes to move, and who has his valuation met by the buying club. That's the reality of modern day football. Fuck, even clubs like Milan and the rags are powerless to stop these situations. And often, for all the bravado a club shows regarding the sale of a player, what they are privately thinking and saying is often very very different.

And Matty , I'm not sure how you can say Everton aren't close to launching a realistic challenge on the top 4 and the cups . How close does a team have to be to be any closer m8 ?
Does not a top 4 place already , 2 5th place finishes , and a semi final and final appearance in the cups merit the title ' close ' ?

We've done it , and continue to do it bud .
We do it on the field , and not in the forums . If City go on to be successful , and good luck to them if they do , then by all means then add City to the list of contenders , but at the moment , Hughes is making a soup , and nobody has a clue what it will tase like untill it is served .
The Everton soup tastes wonderful I believe . We know this because it is a proven recipe and we've all tasted it . At the moment , City are still in the kitchen m8 . Your mouth might be watering at the table at the smell , and who can blame you , but the term ' proof is in the pudding ' comes into play here .

LOL. Delusions of grandeur my friend. Moyes, as loathsome a human being as he is, has done a wonderful job of putting together a decent premiership side made up of lower league players, unproven international players, and rejects from other clubs. However they have at no point had the squad, or ability to consistently challenge the top four. And frankly, if you think you are going to go anywhere but backwards next season, you are smoking too much crack.
 
twinkletoes said:
Darker shade of Blue said:
I'd be very surprised if the only person who knew Lescotts thoughts at the time of these so called ITK's were Lescott himself . It also tickles me that Didsbury Dave quotes Davey Harrison ( our secretary ) as being his source . I'm not saying Dave is a liar , and he may well have had a conversation with Davey , but Dave Harrison , and indeed any Everton player for that matter would not be able to categorically state what is going to happen .
All they could do is pass their opinion on the matter .

The only person who knows exactly what is going to happen is David Moyes , not even Joleon Lescott .

And Matty , I'm not sure how you can say Everton aren't close to launching a realistic challenge on the top 4 and the cups . How close does a team have to be to be any closer m8 ?
Does not a top 4 place already , 2 5th place finishes , and a semi final and final appearance in the cups merit the title ' close ' ?

We've done it , and continue to do it bud .
We do it on the field , and not in the forums . If City go on to be successful , and good luck to them if they do , then by all means then add City to the list of contenders , but at the moment , Hughes is making a soup , and nobody has a clue what it will tase like untill it is served .
The Everton soup tastes wonderful I believe . We know this because it is a proven recipe and we've all tasted it . At the moment , City are still in the kitchen m8 . Your mouth might be watering at the table at the smell , and who can blame you , but the term ' proof is in the pudding ' comes into play here .


Everton are about £50-100m from being a top four club.

And the rest!!!
 
Darker shade of Blue said:
Matty said:
Just a couple of points:-

1 - The ITK of which I speak was passing on information related to Lescott's wishes/intentions. Obviously this is just what the player wants to happen and not what Everton want to happen. It is unusual however (although not unprecidented) for a player to be prevented from moving on if he has his heart set on it, especially when multi-million pound offers are in for him.

2 - I can understand the bravado but, seriously, Everton are not "very close to launching a realistic challenge on both the top 4 , and all cup competitions". It's just that simple. Without HUGE sums of cash you can't break the top 4, it's impossible, at least with regularity. You managed it once a few years back, but couldn't build upon that. I'm not having a dig at Everton, or Villa or Spurs for that matter, it's just a simple fact. City are the only club capable of breaking into the top 4 monopoly, and that's only becasue of our extremely wealthy owners.

I'd be very surprised if the only person who knew Lescotts thoughts at the time of these so called ITK's were Lescott himself . It also tickles me that Didsbury Dave quotes Davey Harrison ( our secretary ) as being his source . I'm not saying Dave is a liar , and he may well have had a conversation with Davey , but Dave Harrison , and indeed any Everton player for that matter would not be able to categorically state what is going to happen .
All they could do is pass their opinion on the matter .

The only person who knows exactly what is going to happen is David Moyes , not even Joleon Lescott .

And Matty , I'm not sure how you can say Everton aren't close to launching a realistic challenge on the top 4 and the cups . How close does a team have to be to be any closer m8 ?
Does not a top 4 place already , 2 5th place finishes , and a semi final and final appearance in the cups merit the title ' close ' ?

We've done it , and continue to do it bud .
We do it on the field , and not in the forums . If City go on to be successful , and good luck to them if they do , then by all means then add City to the list of contenders , but at the moment , Hughes is making a soup , and nobody has a clue what it will tase like untill it is served .
The Everton soup tastes wonderful I believe . We know this because it is a proven recipe and we've all tasted it . At the moment , City are still in the kitchen m8 . Your mouth might be watering at the table at the smell , and who can blame you , but the term ' proof is in the pudding ' comes into play here .


Get over it, Everton are a selling Club, Just like us when we had to sell SWP to Chelsea, EVERYONE KNOWS HE IS COMING- do you a deal if he comes you GO?????????????
 
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