Lescott [Merged]

[not my fault!]

i wouldn't say "a bit more" 5 times his wages are on offer. And Jo didn't not like us, we didn't like him, he was shit, scored one goal in 20 starts, and looks like a pillock. Don't make it sound like every City player is treated like jo, and i disagree that you have a real familly atmosphere, what was it when we won you at goodison "fuck off robinho" was being chanted and i seem to remember him being spat on. And i hate to say it but united have a better spirit than you, they play shit bags like fletcher who wouldnt get in to watfords side and still win games.

Hmm i'm not sure 5 times more is likely... probs double his current salary. Also an extra £40k a week to a football is probs the equivalent of a couple of grand to me. thats the point I was making and I think you probs took me a bit to literally.

I'm not saying every player at City gets treated like Jo, but if Lescott did ask him about City you can gaurantee he wouldn't be complimentary. I hadn't thought about the other players people mentioned tho so they have a valid point... I still think my point is valid though as well.

The family atmosphere I was referring to was "in camp" rather then the atmosphere at games. Everyone at our club gets on great and we have a fantastic team spirit. No-one can deny that and if they do then they are majorly wrong.

Fletcher wouldn't get in Watfords team?!!!! Yet he played in the Champions League Semi Final for Man United?!!! Oh my god!!! Funniest thing i've ever ever read without a doubt!

I think i'll take SAF's opinion of a player over yours if that ok lol!

Cant say I agree with this bit... He is still owned by City isnt he? Or did I miss him joining you on a perminant deal? No player who is still contracted would slagg their own team off as they are the key to any future deal there may be in his ability to move to another club. Such as you blue bin dippers! Ok some players who are trying to leave and have a bid on the table for them may say some dodgy things about the club but Jo is on loan only at present.

 

[Lomas has a lob on]

i dont wish to sound arrogant at all but everton cant use the lure of european football to keep lescott, they are constantly knocked out of europe at very early stages! and its because there squad isn't big enough and probably lacks creativity at european level (arteta and pienaar aside) plus evertons main aim quite rightly is to finnish as high as poss in the league! now like i said im not wishing to come across arrogant and i'll stop short of definately saying we'll finnish above everton, but its clear we are heading one way and a lot quicker than everton are! i had a chat with some mates last night non of which were everton or city fans, and i asked the question if everton and city gave you an identical contract which club would you sign 4? and they all said city! now lescott isn't world class (yet) so he's not used to chumps league and isn't a priority 4 him right now, everton and other fans have to admit that what were doing is very appealing to players (money aside) even the some top players have come out in interviews and stated its gonna be interesting to watch what city do (so far i've heard rio, lamps, and tranny speak about us)

Its a double edged sword really:

On the plus side:

* You've got the finances to really have a go at the top 4 and go beyond that even
* Your chairman seems to have patience and didn't just sack Hughes and bring in a big name
* You have bought Robinho & Tevez which boosts your profile massively

On the Downside
* Sucess is expected straight away. You wont be given time to settle. City fans seem to really dislike Jo, largely because he was rubbish for you. We gave him a chance and he did well. Sometimes expectation can way heavy on you. You either succeed or fail at City now. Failing could really fuck up your career.
* You dont have the solid platform to build on at the moment. Chelsea were already a top 5 team when they got taken over, you weren't. Again its all down to expectation. Will City fans be happy with 7th place? No so they buy big names who may or may not gel.

You have the potential thats for sure, but the likes of Terry wont leave (imo) until your established and have proven you are going in the right direction. Spurs buy players for crazy money (ok not crazy by your teams standards and deep pockets tbf) but never get anywhere. Their reserve team last year put out a team that cost £45m... proof that spending doesnt always work.

I'm not trying to say you wont get there, or to players like Lescott City aren't an attractive propostion... I'm trying to give a fair and balanced argument of what may go through a players mind when deciding on a move... I hope that comes accross ok.

all good points mate and i agree with them! im just trying to put across that city is probably a very attractive or shall i say intriguing proposition for players right now (BESIDES THE TOP 4). and please dont think im saying everton arent a good proposition, i just think maybe you've got as far as you can with your resources! and i'd like to add that i think everton have peformed excellent and i have huge admiration for moyes, imo he's top class . . . . . . .wouldn't mind him being boss at us in the future! maybe we'll leave that debate for another day lol!

 

[ToffeeAndy]

Hmm i'm not sure 5 times more is likely... probs double his current salary. Also an extra £40k a week to a football is probs the equivalent of a couple of grand to me. thats the point I was making and I think you probs took me a bit to literally.

I'm not saying every player at City gets treated like Jo, but if Lescott did ask him about City you can gaurantee he wouldn't be complimentary. I hadn't thought about the other players people mentioned tho so they have a valid point... I still think my point is valid though as well.

The family atmosphere I was referring to was "in camp" rather then the atmosphere at games. Everyone at our club gets on great and we have a fantastic team spirit. No-one can deny that and if they do then they are majorly wrong.

Fletcher wouldn't get in Watfords team?!!!! Yet he played in the Champions League Semi Final for Man United?!!! Oh my god!!! Funniest thing i've ever ever read without a doubt!

I think i'll take SAF's opinion of a player over yours if that ok lol!

Cant say I agree with this bit... He is still owned by City isnt he? Or did I miss him joining you on a perminant deal? No player who is still contracted would slagg their own team off as they are the key to any future deal there may be in his ability to move to another club. Such as you blue bin dippers! Ok some players who are trying to leave and have a bid on the table for them may say some dodgy things about the club but Jo is on loan only at present.

Lescott pulls Jo to oneside and ask "Jo i'm thinking about this City move, what was it like there"? You dont think he'd say "I hated it man, i'm so much happier here" or words to that effect? He practically said that in the press towards the end of his loan last season, he pretty muched begged moyes to keep him at goodison

 

[Forzacitizens]

im sorry but Jo can f*** off, overated waste of space, if Lescott relies on Jo's opinion in moving to city than he can stay at everton

 

[mancboy123]

Or do you think he maybe looks down the m62 at all the new players coming in and being hero worshipped and talking about building towards something special and thinks maybe ill have some of that 2

 

[Rammy Blue]

Take whoevers opinion you like, i don't really care, Fletcher, rafeal, neville, berbaflop, park. They are all bad, wouldnt have them at city, i remember robinho absolutley DEMOLISHING rafeal in the derby he didnt know which way was up. You think fleltcher playing for watford is the funniest thing youve read you obviously dont see him play often. What is lescott on now, 30k a week? he wou;d be on 100 with us so although it aint 5x its more than double and equates to millions more over his contract

Well Man U won the league and got the Champions League Final so I'll go with SAF's. Maybe the players you listed also show that its a "team" that wins things, not just a collection of the best players all stuck in a team together.

I also think i've seen enough of Fletcher to have a decent idea of what he's like. Yeah he's not Kaka but he's a very good player none the less.

I think Lescott's on about £40k but I could be wrong. Maybe money will be the deciding factor... would you want a player just coming to you for money though? Do you think any of the players you've signed have come for the money? I woulnd't ever want that for my team.

been out for lunch so missed your earlier response, i see however that everyone else have saved me the time of replying....

thing is, and i don't want this to be taken the wrong way as at least your posts are literate, but i am bored senseless by you and other everton and chelsea fans of FREQUENTING our site.

i don't mind the odd visit and reasoned debate with an opposing fan but because the threads have been around a few weeks on our targets then you have imo overstayed your welcome.

i have highlighted and underlined the comment that irks me, what player doesn't prefer to be paid more for what they do?

you constantly refer to us as a mid-table club, of course from finishing position in the last 2 years we have been, however it just stinks of jealousy to me - what City are embarking on is a fast-track that has NEVER been done in football before, we have fantastic owners who are prepared to fund this transformation and i personally am giddy as fuck at the thought of winning the Prem and Chumps League within the next few years.

not difficult to see why players wouldn't want to be aboard for this journey, plus get paid more than anywhere else, ffs it's a no-brainer as to why Lescott and JT want to join the mighty blues.

the Bluemoon is rising and we are going to rule.

 

[hgblue]

im sorry but Jo can f*** off, overated waste of space, if Lescott relies on Jo's opinion in moving to city than he can stay at everton

Don't worry. Do you really think Lescott will base maybe the biggest decision of his footballing career, on the opinion of one person who he barely knows? Our Evertonian friends have made some good points, but this was one of silliest ideas I've seen on here for a while.

 

[Dubai Blue]

Lescott pulls Jo to oneside and ask "Jo i'm thinking about this City move, what was it like there"? You dont think he'd say "I hated it man, i'm so much happier here" or words to that effect? He practically said that in the press towards the end of his loan last season, he pretty muched begged moyes to keep him at goodison

He's just as likely to pick up his mobile phone and call his England teammates Gareth Barry, Wayne Bridge, Micah Richards, and SWP, and ask them what they think. I'd imagine they'll all have pretty positive things to say to him.

 

[BlueRockape]

You can shove lescott up your arse we will keep Ned 10x better prospect than no knees lescott the money on offer for a player with a very dodgy future is more than enough

 

[wrongun73]

im sorry but Jo can f*** off, overated waste of space, if Lescott relies on Jo's opinion in moving to city than he can stay at everton

Don't worry. Do you really think Lescott will base maybe the biggest decision of his footballing career, on the opinion of one person who he barely knows? Our Evertonian friends have made some good points, but this was one of silliest ideas I've seen on here for a while.

even sillier than petrov playing left back??