Lescott [Merged]

[Darker shade of Blue]

If Moyes is really stupid enough to doing this he is allowing his own stubborn pride to potentially disrupt Evertons future. If he has really said he wants out he will go and he will not be the same for Everton again, he will however professional he is be unsettled and disruptive,

For City this is probably the best outcome, Everton down to one quality centre back who is unsettled, gossip all season about unhappiness and moves in Jan and no money to spend. Personally if they don't sell lescott I can see this being enough of a disruption to cost them top 10 let alone top 6. This is really in our favour. After all we can go and get a player just as good for 25m and Everton are unsettled.

If we get him we overpay and we get a good player but we hand Everton $25m of which they keep 20m or so, that could buy them Delph, Elm, Senderos and Moutinho and significantly strengthen their overall squad and team. This is clearly what Everton wanted but now pride and stubborness appear to have taken over and Moyes is now allowing his base instincts to over ride common sense and I think this will actually be the situation that brings everton down and actually damages them.

Effin marvellous we cannot lose now either we get the man and Moyes flips as he has staked it all on keeping him now or we leave Everton with an unhappy player, rumours all season and one CB who is not happy and ultimately will leave if he wants to!

I forseee Everton losing Moyes and Lescott in the next 3 weeks!

Moyes is good but he is not the Prems top manager, anyone but a complete one eyed idiot can see that Fergie and then Wenger are an absolute mile ahead of anyone else and anyone who claims Moyes is better than Ferguson has no credibility!

Then why was he once again voted the Premiership manager of the year for the 3rd time since being at Everton m8 ?

And Matt , thanks for the kind words .

 

[Dillon]

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JOLEON LESCOTT has been told he will NOT be allowed to leave Everton – despite demanding a move to Manchester City yesterday.

The England defender – who stands to double his wages to £90,000-a-week at Eastlands – finally took matters into his own hands by asking to quit Goodison Park during showdown talks with manager David Moyes at the club’s training HQ.

But Lescott was left in no doubt that he will not be able to engineer a move as boss Moyes told the central defender he is not for sale.

Moyes has been totally unmoved during City’s very public pursuit of Lescott and was in no mood to cave in when he verbally asked for a transfer.

City boss Mark Hughes has seen bids of £15m and £18m rejected and has to decide whether to try again, knowing it will need a silly offer of £25m-plus to prompt Everton into reconsidering.

Instead, Hughes may turn his sights on Sebastien Bassong at Newcastle or Chelsea’s Alex as he hunts for a partner for Kolo Toure.

Lescott missed Everton’s friendly with Coventry on Sunday with a hip injury and could be missing again at Blackpool tonight.

But he will want to prove his fitness before Friday’s game with Malaga as Fabio Capello’s England squad for next week’s friendly with Holland is named Saturday.

Moyes is keen on Arsenal’s unwanted defender Philippe Senderos, who would snub a move by Hamburg to stay in the Premier League.

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JOLEON Lescott has been told he will not be allowed to leave Everton despite demanding a move to Manchester City.

England defender Lescott, who stands to double his wages to £90,000 a week at Eastlands, asked to quit Goodison Park during a meeting with manager Moyes yesterday.

But Moyes has been unflinching in his stance throughout City’s very public pursuit of Lescott, 26, and was in no mood to cave in when he verbally requested a transfer.

Lescott also plans to write to Everton chairman and owner Bill Kenwright outlining his reasons for wanting to go, but he stands behind Moyes in his desire to hang onto the player.

City boss Mark Hughes has already seen bids of £15million and £18m rejected and must now decide whether to persist with a third approach that would have to be in excess of £22m to provoke Everton to sell.

Hughes may look to Newcastle’s Sebastien Bassong and Chelsea’s Alex as a partner for Kolo Toure.

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Joleon Lescott's hope of securing a lucrative move to Manchester City has receded after the Everton manager, David Moyes, rejected a verbal transfer request from the England international.

The defender told Moyes in a meeting at the club's Finch Farm training base yesterday morning that he wants to leave Goodison Park for Eastlands, where he would double his £40,000-a-week salary. Moyes responded by informing the 26-year-old he would not be sold regardless of City's offer or Lescott's desire to quit the club he joined for £5m from Wolverhampton Wanderers in 2006.

Everton last night signed the Switzerland centre-half Philippe Senderos from Arsenal, the Swiss football federation announced. But Moyes had lined up that £2.5m transfer as cover for Phil Jagielka, who is expected to be out until December with a cruciate ligament injury.

Moyes's intransigence over Lescott, a stance supported by the Everton chairman, Bill Kenwright, may still be challenged by an astronomical offer from City before the start of the new Premier League season but Everton have been consistent about Lescott's future for several months. The club have rejected two bids from City, for £15m and £18m plus add-ons, and Lescott has so far stopped short of submitting a written transfer request. He does intend, however, to write to Kenwright to explain his reasons for wanting to join City after a successful three-year stay on Merseyside.

Everton's position has left City little option but to lodge a vastly improved offer for Lescott, who has now given his suitors more encouragement that a deal can be done than Chelsea's John Terry ever did. Moyes is determined to prevent a club he views as a rival for next season from strengthening at his expense.

Lescott missed Everton's pre-season game at Coventry City on Sunday and will also sit out tonight's friendly at Blackpool. Moyes, however, has insisted the defender's absence is not connected to his desire to join City. "Joleon picked up a hip injury while we were in America," he said. "We don't expect him to be fit for Tuesday but hopefully he can make it on Friday against Málaga."

An added concern for Everton is the club's record signing Marouane Fellaini, who is unlikely to be 100% fit for the league opener against Arsenal on 15 August. The £15m midfielder contracted a debilitating virus that has resulted in significant weight loss and Moyes admits the Belgium international remains short of fitness despite playing 90 minutes at Coventry.

"Fellaini picked up a viral infection in the summer," Moyes said. "It got into his blood, he lost a lot of weight and he wasn't a boy that could afford to lose any weight. It's noticeable looking at him how thin he has become. It has definitely had an effect on his overall performance. It is going to take a little while for him to get his full strength back. I don't think he is there yet. He has not been right all through pre-season and he is still not right. When you are the shape and build he is, when you lose weight it's not all that easy to put it back on. Since he has come back we've been trying to get him built up, but the weight is not going back on at the moment."

Moyes hopes to sign Rasmus Elm for £4m from Kalmar FF, although the 21-year-old Swedish midfielder has several options including Fulham.

 

[EalingBlue2]

Don't get me wrong Moyes is a good manager he got voted manager of the year for two reasons, one lots of managers are bored of voting for Fergie and a lot of them hate him! two Moyes has done a good job especially when you came fourth with a poor team squad. A modern day Joe Royle, Graham Taylor or Dave Bassett.

Ultimately and I hate Bacon face but if you look at what he has done at United he will go down as one of the greatest managers in the history of world football, as it is today Moyes would be a manager only Everton fans would remember in a decades time and he would not even appear in the record books.

Great managers have to win things and have to achieve trophies and their names in the record books, it is no good just getting an average team to 5th or even 4th!

Moyes could become a great manager but I suspect if he does it will not be at Everton it will be if he is given the chance to manage one of the big 4.

Also if even the best managers allow pride and stubborness to overcome common sense they will start to go backwards!

Also lets cut out all the rudeness to DSOB, divergence of opinion, debate, argument and other supporters makes things interesting and we should all be adult enough to realise other people have different opinions. I find him less offensive than the new style of Rag like City fans boasting and acting like Chavs!

He is deluded about Moyes but then I am pretty deluded about City as are most of us!

 

[bizzbo]

it's a bit shit, but it's a bit late.....

Moyes said: "I've always tried to contact the managers and show respect to them in terms of transfers - and no matter how much money I might have to spend I would always want to keep that up.

"It goes back to the managers having a drink together after the game, to the fact managers would still phone each other up when they are looking for a player. That is part of the way it should be done."

 

[Darker shade of Blue]

DSOB or whatever, I feel morally obliged to, as many of my fellow Blues are probably passed out, comotosed etc. to once and for all instruct you to go away and f*ck off for good... alrite, nite...

Bit harsh mate. I don't read this thread much has DSOB been upsetting people? I only ask because he seems quite level headed to me, going off his posts that I've read.

Unfortunately BG , some guys here don't care what they write , or who they write it to , and have no self restraint or respect either for themselves , the forum , or the people who have to read it . I think it's a trait of modern society on the whole .

 

[Darker shade of Blue]

it's a bit shit, but it's a bit late.....

Moyes said: "I've always tried to contact the managers and show respect to them in terms of transfers - and no matter how much money I might have to spend I would always want to keep that up.

"It goes back to the managers having a drink together after the game, to the fact managers would still phone each other up when they are looking for a player. That is part of the way it should be done."

Touche Mr Bizzbo sir .... touche .

 

[Kaiser Soze]

Bit harsh mate. I don't read this thread much has DSOB been upsetting people? I only ask because he seems quite level headed to me, going off his posts that I've read.

Unfortunately BG , some guys here don't care what they write , or who they write it to , and have no self restraint or respect either for themselves , the forum , or the people who have to read it . I think it's a trait of modern society on the whole .

Irony!

 

[Aussie!]

Don't get me wrong Moyes is a good manager he got voted manager of the year for two reasons, one lots of managers are bored of voting for Fergie and a lot of them hate him! two Moyes has done a good job especially when you came fourth with a poor team squad.

you mean fifth..

 

[bluemoon32]

Don't get me wrong Moyes is a good manager he got voted manager of the year for two reasons, one lots of managers are bored of voting for Fergie and a lot of them hate him! two Moyes has done a good job especially when you came fourth with a poor team squad.

you mean fifth..

They finished 4th in 2004-2005

 

[Dyed Petya]

Don't see why Moyes is attracting so much abuse on here. The bloke's doing his job, and, as that job is managing Everton, then he acts in what he sees as their best interests. I must admit, I thought he'd sell if it became clear that the player fancied the move, but Everton are perfectly entitled to dig their heels in if they want to.

I appreciate that there's an argument for Everton's best interests being served by selling a player who wants to leave to a club willing to pay a lot of money for his services, but given the way Moyes has performed in his job over the last seven years, you can't blame the Everton fans for being willing to trust his judgement. And if that judgement is to put up the maximum resistance to selling someone he presumably regards as one of his better players to a team he may well see as a direct rival - well, you can't say that's a stance that's completely devoid of logic, can you?

Now, City obviously want the player, and the player seems to want to come to us, so maybe he'll be able to force the issue so that Moyes decides it's actually a better course of action to sell him. If he doesn't change his mind, I guess we have to accept it, move on and buy someone else. Whether Moyes is proved right or wrong in terms of Everton subsequently having difficulties through having a player in their squad who's been deprived of many millions of pounds by this move being blocked is really no concern of mine.

Disappointing from City's point of view if we don't get a player who seems to want to join us, of course, because I think this lad would be a good signing for us. These things happen, however. Are we really so arrogant as a set of fans now that we're rich that we expect to wave our cash and see everyone simply dance to our tune? That isn't how it works, and nor should it be.