How can not being able to see something be a clear and obvious error? Note there's a distinction between "not seeing it" and "not being able to see it".The absolute opposite is true.
If the ref hasn’t seen a foul, that is exactly what VAR is for?
I don’t hugely disagree with this, but what if the ref is 50/50 or 55/45 on a foul? Does he blow or not blow and look at the monitor afterwards?Where I come from a spades a spade (a foul is a foul) ….what you’re advocating is that it’s fine for ref’s to wave play on as long as nobody scores, but if they do score it will come under a different kind of scrutiny than what has been used in the other 99% of the game, sorry that’s just not football, if there’s a foul you blow the whistle (unless there’s an advantage available)
So if Ederson punches Salah in the face and knocks him out, but it was behind him, off the ball, it’s not a foul as he’s not seen it?How can not being able to see something be a clear and obvious error? Note there's a distinction between "not seeing it" and "not being able to see it".
The former would be an error, if he hasn't seen something he should have, but the latter wouldn't - it's not an error if he's unable to see it.
I absolutely agree. As I've described it earlier, there's no point in the ref waving play on if a goal is then scored but consequently disallowed as a result of the incident that he waved play on for. It's either a foul or it isn't; if it is then the ref might as well just call it if VAR are going to disallow it anyway.Where I come from a spades a spade (a foul is a foul) ….what you’re advocating is that it’s fine for ref’s to wave play on as long as nobody scores, but if they do score it will come under a different kind of scrutiny than what has been used in the other 99% of the game, sorry that’s just not football, if there’s a foul you blow the whistle (unless there’s an advantage available)
Are we ignoring the Haaland free header and the fact we were chasing the game and we took chances at the back in the last ten minutes , but the good news , Nunez is dogshit.We just ignoring the Jota free header and 2 Nunez sitters then? Ok
You're right about our goal though, fucking joke
Are we ignoring the Haaland free header and the fact we were chasing the game and we took chances at the back in the last ten minutes , but the good news , Nunez is dogshit.
Yes agreedKDB should have dropped back to screen Salah from the front. Doesn’t excuse Cancelo’s brain fart though.
We've known this for years. Pep tried to mask that by playing 3 centre backs.Yes agreed
But Cancelo is fantastic going forward but as a defender he's a liability and makes too many errors.
Get a grip, son.Worst night being a blue for me for a long time this
I hate those cunts so much
Feel much more pissed off than going out to Madrid in Semi last year
FOR FUCKS SAKE
I don't make the rules! It's either a "clear and obvious error" or it isn't, and if it isn't then according to the game's own rules then VAR shouldn't be involved, because they're only involved when a clear and obvious error has occurred, and if the ref CANNOT see it, it's not an error, clear or otherwise.So if Ederson punches Salah in the face and knocks him out, but it was behind him, off the ball, it’s not a foul as he’s not seen it?
If a handball in the area happens and the ref doesn’t spot it, should a penalty be given, or ignored as he should have seen it/couldn’t see it because players were in the way.
It‘s not binary.