Liverpool fans throwing missiles from South Stand Level 3

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Do we know if the young girl that was hit is alright yet?

 

[Coatigan]

Apparently there was some racist abuse from a City fan towards Liverpool fan, so the club should rightly condemn that, as should Liverpool with the numerous missiles thrown and the man assaulted outside the stadium. The sooner clubs start accepting responsibility for, or at least acknowledging, the specific actions of their fans then it’s more of a starting point than vague, joint statements imo.

Only if sections of fans, some bigger than others, don't then use each other's accepting responsibility to justify their own actions. Which they almost certainly would.

 

[idahoblues]

I enjoyed your deployment of the term buffoon........... :-)

I like to incorporate 'buffoon' in my daily vocabulary

 

[halfcenturyup]

I have to say I disagree. They kind of tried that, well at least City did.

After the accusations of Hillsborough chants, or rather that always the victim chant is about that (because seemingly anything can be if they decide so), City publicly said they were disappointed at a minority's behaviour and would look into it. They acknowledged it, and took responsibility on the fans' behalf.

All it did is make the other more righteous and both the media and their nutter fans fed off it. And some blues more disappointed and maybe feeling aggrieved.

There might not be anything to acknowledge this time at the City end, but if there was and they did, it would just then feed excuses for the Liverpool behaviour on the night by their nutters, and by some of the media. Likewise, if City issued a condemning statement aimed at Liverpool, or Liverpool acknowledges their own, it could feed resentment among a minority of blues that may be likely to react next time.

They are both trying to calm it down, and stretch it out so it has time to settle. They are also half trusting both fans to look at themselves rather than the others. Which might be their mistake tbf. With Liverpool, almost certainly. But even among blues, as seen with one or two over the top reactions to the statement.

Imo it needs a sharper and more drastic measure, like a temporary pause in away support etc. But that has dangers too of overfeeding it and making it bigger than it currently is, or speeding up where it might slowly be going. Tough one, really. At some point, it has to start fans wanting to de-escalate it.

You may be right that it is the fans who ultimately will have to control themselves, but why is it always the fans who are the problem? Liverpool fans have been fed propaganda and lies about City for 10 years and it is taking its toll on both sets of fans. You only have to look at the reasons that AJ guy (who was at least trying to be reasonable) gave for the animosity: oil money, state-ownership and financial doping. Where do you think he gets this nonsense from? His club, either directly or indirectly through client media.

Unless that is reigned in, I don't see how the relationship at fan level is going to get any better.

 

[Coatigan]

You may be right that it is the fans who ultimately will have to control themselves, but why is it always the fans who are the problem? Liverpool fans have been fed propaganda and lies about City for 10 years and it is taking its toll on both sets of fans. You only have to look at the reasons that AJ guy (who was at least trying to be reasonable) gave for the animosity: oil money, state-ownership and financial doping. Where do you think he gets this nonsense from? His club, either directly or indirectly through client media.

Unless that is reigned in, I don't see how the relationship at fan level is going to get any better.

There was nothing reasonable about AJ. You are right, it is a cycle of fan twisting, turn to propaganda, turn to more fan twisting. And imo both clubs separately condemning their own supporters' actions, immediately at least, might be used to continue that.

I can see what they are trying with the joint approach, I really can. It will take a bit of time though to get over the initial anger from both.

 

[Sk@mcfc]

These pricks can’t help themselves they cause shit everywhere they go you can’t even come on here without them spouting there fucking nonsense

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

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Seen some bizarre excuses but this tops it

Interesting collection, when the cup reportedly also still had liquid in it.

Those fake fivers would surely have been sodden.

Poor coach driver.

 

[Bluesince1979]

Liverpool Echo getting priorities right :

“Liverpool have confirmed their intention to investigate a number of incidents at Manchester City's Etihad Stadium on Thursday night that includes the racial abuse of disabled supporters.
Despite the entertainment on the pitch, the match was marred by a number of disturbances in the crowd that saw Liverpool 's disabled supporters abused on the tribune. Objects were also thrown from the visitors into the home end, causing injury to a teenage girl.
A City supporter was ejected from the stadium for the abuse, which is understood to be of a racist nature, that was aimed at some of Liverpool's disabled following in Manchester.
Greater Manchester Police have also launched an investigation after a 15-year-old girl suffered injuries when an object was thrown in her direction. It's understood the cuts sustained were serious enough to require treatment at the stadium on the night”

In other words :
Liverpool fans getting shouted at….

…and while were on the subject some random 15yr old girl get’s head cut open by pint pot filled with coins thrown from the top tier

Next………

That actually insinuates that the 15 year old girl was in the liverpool end

 

[Bluesince1979]

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Seen some bizarre excuses but this tops it

Fuck me

 

[Bluesince1979]

What a load of shite.

Theres always a ‘but’ when they try to explain themselves