Liverpool fans throwing missiles from South Stand Level 3

Coatigan said:
I have to say I disagree. They kind of tried that, well at least City did.

After the accusations of Hillsborough chants, or rather that always the victim chant is about that (because seemingly anything can be if they decide so), City publicly said they were disappointed at a minority's behaviour and would look into it. They acknowledged it, and took responsibility on the fans' behalf.

All it did is make the other more righteous and both the media and their nutter fans fed off it. And some blues more disappointed and maybe feeling aggrieved.

There might not be anything to acknowledge this time at the City end, but if there was and they did, it would just then feed excuses for the Liverpool behaviour on the night by their nutters, and by some of the media. Likewise, if City issued a condemning statement aimed at Liverpool, or Liverpool acknowledges their own, it could feed resentment among a minority of blues that may be likely to react next time.

They are both trying to calm it down, and stretch it out so it has time to settle. They are also half trusting both fans to look at themselves rather than the others. Which might be their mistake tbf. With Liverpool, almost certainly. But even among blues, as seen with one or two over the top reactions to the statement.

Imo it needs a sharper and more drastic measure, like a temporary pause in away support etc. But that has dangers too of overfeeding it and making it bigger than it currently is, or speeding up where it might slowly be going. Tough one, really. At some point, it has to start fans wanting to de-escalate it.
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The actions of the bin dippers on Thursday was entirely predictable and the naivety of the City hierarchy in not anticipating it is a big concern.

Removing 6000 young ,vocal City fans in SS3 and replacing them with 6000 lawless, lethal dippers was asking for trouble which predictably happened.

In military strategy you never concede the high ground !!

The events confirm and reinforce the need for a dedicated high level City end.

Going back to Maine Rd days, City fans were and are sick of having to give our home end away to rival fans. I’m unaware of any other major club who does this, it will always understandably create and increase animosity.

An exclusive City end will prevent many of these issues in the future in addition to (hopefully) consistently improving the atmosphere.

Additionally,in the event of future cup ties opposition fans should be allocated the normal 3 tier side section of seats or SS1. SS2 & 3 should be exclusively for City fans. I can’t see any good reason why this should not be possible and acceptable.

In effect, this will create two City ends, because not everyone in SS will want to relocate to NS but some in SS1 May prefer to move up to SS3 where the acoustics are so much better.

Likewise,some from the ESL singing section may relocate to SS3 in addition to NS2.

One thing is certain away fans must NEVER be allocated SS3 again.
 
Catching up with this thread and laughing at the coach driver excuse. Forget the discussion about whether or not you have a collection before the end of the journey. How does something that accidentally falls of a third tier ledge end up in the first tier unless it is thrown with some velocity. It has to be a parody account by an Everton fan.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
Virtually every casual reader (does the Echo have casual readers, though?), not either associated with City or Liverpool, not interested in football even, would be lead to make that assumption, given the way it's contextualised. See, this disingenous way of spinning things is what I absolutely can't stand.
And it's my objection to the way it's been reported on the BBC.
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It’s never an accident.
 
Eds said:
Catching up with this thread and laughing at the coach driver excuse. Forget the discussion about whether or not you have a collection before the end of the journey. How does something that accidentally falls of a third tier ledge end up in the first tier unless it is thrown with some velocity. It has to be a parody account by an Everton fan.
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Well, you see, it was simply perched on the ledge at the front of the third tier. Somebody clumsily jogged it, and it started falling. As it dropped past the second tier, a strong gust of wind from City fans chanting “you're always the victims” diverted it onto the first tier. City fans' fault, see?
 
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