Liverpool - post match thread.

[Blue Mooner]

That's the thing about yesterday, in that you can look at it from a number of different angles and come to entirely different conclusions. I simply don't agree with your assertion that we controlled it however. Liverpool allowed us to have the ball and sat back knowing we were essentially toothless. So you could equally say they controlled it. You could say we controlled the second half against Leicester but did we really? We certainly had more of the ball consistently in the second half but was there a time that you thought "It's just a matter of time before we score?" because I didn't.

I totally disagree with the notion that the team who doesn't have the ball has control of a game, but that's just my opinion.

I'm really struggling with the idea that losing control of the football is in any way a good thing. In fact, it frustrates the hell out of me when City get a goal and then go on the defensive, far sooner that you keep control of the ball and go and get the second to kill the game off.

It's small teams that get a goal up and then defend for their lives which is essentially what Liverpool did. I took that a massive complement but made the result even more frustrating as I know we are a better team than Liverpool.

 

[Dax777]

That was the last point in a conversation i was having with another poster......where we were saying what could have been done differently.......I think those changes would have made a difference to the result and that is the team i would ave put out and asked them to do certain things (at least in the first half)

Sorry, I read the last few pages only. Didn't read the whole thread.

I think our aging players are generally not as good as they used to be, but we don't want to see it yet.

Yaya (we all know he isn't as good as he once was)

Silva (Some of us realize he isn't what he used to be, others wait till he has a dominant game to supposedly rub it in our faces. Not realizing the joke is on them. Silva used to be good every game. Now he is good in every other 4th or 5th game.

Fernandihno: Yep even bMr Consistent is beginning to show his age. Energy Levels have dropped a notch.

Aguero: I am worried he has lost form, and he might have a hard time getting it back.

DeBryune: The inconsistent results are becoming worrying. But he has age in his side.

The fullbacks: All are 2 old.

The Captain: Is crocked and has been for 3 years running.


This is not a team challenging for titles. It's one struggling to make top 4.

The only sad part is there is no Pelegrini to blame.

 

[Adlab123]

We are all Blues on here and therefore are biased one way or another in our views. Me included.
Just back from walking the dogs and chatting with a mate an ex Sunderland player. He said our problem in his opinion, is we are trying to walk the ball in and opponents just sit back. He said any decent team will combat this most of the time. On yesterdays game he thought we were just the better team but no end product. Also thinks tbe goalie doesnt inspire the defence. Agree or not this guy played at the top level and currently coaches semi-pros.
Lets hope for 4 or 5 tomorrow

 

[The-Dogs-Pollocks]

And most of that transformation from one half to the next was about work rate and general intensity. It stopped the counter attacks and put Arsenal on the back foot. We need to stop thinking it is ok to only flick that switch when things are going tits up though IMO. We start games terribly too often at the moment and I assume that is about attitude.

At the start of the season our intensity from kick off was good and we bossed utd at the swamp in the first half then dropped off after the damage was done. Not sure if its fitness or attitude. But it needs sorting.

 

[BAB.DAB]

Kdb was dreadful yesterday.....

Kun was at least holding the ball up and bringing in sterling at times....Kdb couldn't hit a 5 yd pass yesterday

Kun was caught offside few times but this happens....Im not sure its a reason why he should be sold though as some are suggesting........(Im being slightly sarcastic btw but its seems to be a small part of an argument being put forward)

the problem lies in what Pep is asking the whole team to do.......they cant do it against teams that play in certina high energy styles.....Yaya...constantly getting robbed of the ball.....kdb as well......kolarov getting forward so far that he cant get back (how many times does Pep have to see this before he changes it?????)

Pep will change it in the summer

 

[Lancet Fluke]

I can think of only one other club held hostage by its manager......Arsenal.

I said to my son a couple of weeks ago that Txiki and Soriano came in determined to turn us into Barca but so far they are just turning us into Arsenal. Too entrenched in the notion of playing football in a certain way which is fine when you happen to be winning but if you aren't then it makes you look like Arsenal who for about 15 years seem more bothered about winning the imaginary cup for attacking football than winning trophies.

 

[leewill31]

There wasn't too much wrong with the set up yesterday as the second half showed. They didn't run through us or rout us. We lost due to a shite free kick and a great cross and header.

i had this yesterday with some scouse friends liverpool were in no way playing well at all the fact our front 3-4 were lackluster at best was the reason we lost cant blame Pep for players form...

 

[blueinsa]

Sadly, for some posters Aguero is becoming the new Hart.

In the same way that Pep is the new Pellegrini?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

You left out 11/12

Updated now.

 

[FanchesterCity]

Liverpool didn't have any shots on target! They had one chance and scored it, lady luck was shining for them, I'm guessing there's very few games, if any, where a team that hasn't mustered a shot on target has won a game but they did. That's football.

No one here is claiming it was a vintage performance but before the game we were being told Liverpool were going to blow us away with the famous anfield crowd behind them

They didn't, they got one goal with their first attempt, and then defended like Burnley might to hold onto the lead - and this is one of the allegedly top clubs in the premier league, not daring, or not able to go toe to toe with us.

I think they did go toe to toe with us. They took all three points and are now 4 points ahead of us. Going toe to toe (in my book) means being to be competitive with us, and they were. We have to stop thinking they were lucky, Chelsea were lucky, or we 'bossed' the game...
They took all three points. Ultimately, that's the entire point of the game.

For quite a few years now, we've all seen Arsenal play lovely football, but where's it got them? 3 points is most important, if you can get them 'in style' then great, but first and foremost, if we want to win more titles, winning comes first.

Fair play to Liverpool - I think they deserved the win. Had a chance, took it, and kept their lead. They have smiles on their faces, and we're looking over our shoulders.