Liverpool - post match thread.

[Powello]

How the fuck did we get beat?

 

[VOOMER]

We have a manger who wasn't keen coming to us. We have wasted a chance to takeover from the rags and chavs as the dominant team. As it stands Pep may not be in charge this time next year. Total *uck and a criminal waste of the sheiks money.

 

[Len Rum]

We're a far better team without Agustin in it.

There, I said it.

Didn't she win Miss Phillipines 2002?
The team could well be better with her in it at the moment!

 

[Super Joey Hart]

As amazing as Sergio is it pisses me off the amount of times we have the ball at either side of their box yet we simply can't cross it as he is about 5ft 6. We need a costa type player to hit. I'm not saying get a target man like Andy Carroll just to win headers but you need a presence in the box to cross it into as it can cause all sorts of problems with potential knock downs etc

 

[willipp]

Happy New Year. I'm still Whining ;-)

I'm having my first year I ever remember just staying in with my pregnant wife who is grumpy and not drinking, so trying to see a positive anywhere I can find one.

 

[Marvin]

I spent half the week being advised by footballing geniuses such as @Metalartin and @SWP's back we're better than Chelsea.

We aren't even as good as fucking Liverpool, or Spurs for that matter.

I've posted pretty much the same opinion on here over the last 6-7 weeks - the manager is failing to learn. In this league, if you have aspirations, you just do not:

1. Start slowly and go behind within 10, 20 minutes.

2. Incessantly dick around playing tika-taka in your own penalty box and defensive third.

3. Not win 2nd balls.

4. Fuck about changing the back 4 every game.

5. Slow every counter attacking opportunity down by playing slow sideways / backwards passes.

6. Not put 110% effort and commitment in.

The fact he is failing to learn and prevent these things (he's even actually encouraging points 2, 3 and 4) tells me he either isn't the genius we thought he was or is simply to stubborn and egotistical to accept the approach needs to change. Whichever one it is, it isn't going to wok out for him in this league unless he adapts and does it right now.

1) We started well, but conceded a soft goal which was decisive

2) We won most of the challenges. Surely you cannot think we lost because we didn't win the 2nd ball. We had loads of possession

3) The play was slow at times because Liverpool had everyone behind the ball.

4) There was no lack of effort.

We lost a very tight game.

At the moment we're liable to lose such games because our defence is not good enough. I don't think that has anything to with Guardiola. Players like Zabaleta have just had their day, and there's one or two more who are past their best as well

 

[SS2dan]

The thing is, the mood music is changing all the time. We are now being massaged and conditioned to think top four will be a remarkable achievement.

We have hired in possibly the most expensive manager in the world to direct one of the most expensively assembled squads. The least I expect is a dogfight in the title race, which I still hope to see, not some unseemly scrabble for CL qualification and a promise of jam tomorrow. I also expect to see players sweating blood for the shirt. If that's being entitled then fcuk it, I'm guilty.

Post is spot on every city fan knew the defence was the main problem and it has not been sorted out arguably worse but let pep get on with his job and it will come good happy new year to all blues

 

[cleavers]

bluwes, people get paranoid on here when someone says something they don't agree with. Been going to City since 67, season ticket holder since 95 and sold programmes in the 70s. And when I lived on the south coast I travelled to all home games with my son the season they were relegated to third tier.

All that is great, but if you don't understand what Sheik Mansour is doing in (and out) of this club then you really should pay more attention, there isn't a chance of him 'bailing out', none, so comments like that are utterly ridiculous given the investment he has already made.

 

[HelloCity]

100%.

There's something else though. There's a reluctance amongst a few to acknowledge that the problem isn't just the defenders. There's players in our squad who are rightly revered for the things they've achieved. Pep has come in and respected that and given them a chance. They will all be jettisoned in the next 18 months IMO though. There's no room for sentiment in football and what's quite clear is that we aren't playing like a Pep team. The reason is that some of the players aren't physically capable or mentally smart enough.

Definitely.

The 2013 FA Cup Final and 12/13 season in general always made me question the mentality of some of our top players. I always remember Gary Neville saying that although we could be very very good we were also very unreliable. I guess in that sense the QPR game would sum that up. Any other top side would have thrashed QPR that day and not needed a last minute winner.

In terms of the old guard

Aguero is a world class goal scorer but he isn't a world class footballer.

Silva can be extremely passive and although he's pleasing on the eye, he sometimes doesn't impact on the overall flow of the game enough.

Others like Yaya and Zabaleta have just been beaten by age and Kompany has been wrecked by injuries.

 

[Peggy's a blue]

I used to memorise the Team of Trautmann,Sears,Leivers ,Fagan,Johnstone etc when I was sat in the Dentist chair to get me through it.

Happy days, things do not seem to be the same these days do they? All the Chesters houses on the old road you know what I mean :-)