Liverpool thread 2019/20

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Yeah it definitely wasn’t him to be fair to him.

This is from Wikipedia, I would suggest anyone who is interested read the whole lot as it sums up exact;ly how Liverpool Football Club and their supporters act...………………………

Shields conducted two unsuccessful appeals under Bulgarian jurisdiction in 2005 and 2006 on procedural grounds relating to the original trial. The 2006 appeal saw his prison sentence cut from 15 to 10 years, but his fine increased to £71,000 and his challenge for a retrial denied.[15] No new evidence was introduced during the appeal and the facts of the original case were supported by existing evidence.[16] The testimony of number of friends of Shields and the confession of Graham Sankey were dismissed as being biased towards helping to free Shields regardless of facts, inconsistent and inaccurate with Sankey incorrectly describing the weapon used in the attack as a paving slab (...a stone with irregular shape and not a pavement slab... according to police forensic reports).[17]
Following Bulgaria's accession to the EU on 1 January 2007, Shields again launched an appeal against his conviction at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, again on procedural grounds on the allegation that his rights were violated during his trial and conviction in Bulgaria. The court found against Shields, and he was returned to the UK to serve the remainder of his sentence. No court found any fault in police or judicial process - under both European and Bulgarian law - related to Shields's arrest, detention, trial and conviction that warranted a retrial.[18]
 
EUFA's decision to go ahead with the game must have been a huge gamble and the dippers didn't raise a hand in objection...
Also is it not correct that the dippers wanted the 2nd leg replayed for some vague reason? (ie, they lost!)
 
This is from Wikipedia, I would suggest anyone who is interested read the whole lot as it sums up exact;ly how Liverpool Football Club and their supporters act...………………………

Shields conducted two unsuccessful appeals under Bulgarian jurisdiction in 2005 and 2006 on procedural grounds relating to the original trial. The 2006 appeal saw his prison sentence cut from 15 to 10 years, but his fine increased to £71,000 and his challenge for a retrial denied.[15] No new evidence was introduced during the appeal and the facts of the original case were supported by existing evidence.[16] The testimony of number of friends of Shields and the confession of Graham Sankey were dismissed as being biased towards helping to free Shields regardless of facts, inconsistent and inaccurate with Sankey incorrectly describing the weapon used in the attack as a paving slab (...a stone with irregular shape and not a pavement slab... according to police forensic reports).[17]
Following Bulgaria's accession to the EU on 1 January 2007, Shields again launched an appeal against his conviction at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, again on procedural grounds on the allegation that his rights were violated during his trial and conviction in Bulgaria. The court found against Shields, and he was returned to the UK to serve the remainder of his sentence. No court found any fault in police or judicial process - under both European and Bulgarian law - related to Shields's arrest, detention, trial and conviction that warranted a retrial.[18]

On balance, I don't think Shields did it. Sankey strikes me as the guilty party and he's well known to the police on Merseyside, so it's not like he hasn't got form. But as @gordondaviesmoustache says, if Shields is innocent the crime was still committed by another Liverpool fan which is something so many of them conveniently overloook.

As for Jack Straw, well I remember upon Shields being released Straw insisted there would be an investigation into who the real culprit was, and if identified they would be brought to justice. As far as I know, no investigation ever took place and he was just paying lip service which for me is abhorrent.
 
On balance, I don't think Shields did it. Sankey strikes me as the guilty party and he's well known to the police in Merseyside, so it's not like he hasn't got form. But as @gordondaviesmoustache says, if Shields is innocent the crime was still committed by another Liverpool fan which is something so many of them conveniently overloook.

As for Jack Straw, well I remember upon Shields being released Straw insisted there would be an investigation into who the real culprit was, and if identified they would be brought to justice. As far as I know, no investigation ever took place and he was just paying lip service which for me is abhorrent.

To me this shows the power of the media where people read something and believe it to be true. Many people have read that Shields is innocent - he isn't. Just because Jack Straw decided to pardon him does not make him innocent. Even the European Court of Human Rights rejected his appeal and upheld his conviction. If was yet another brilliant propaganda exercise by the loveable scouse scallies. Shields was part of a viscous gang of hooligans.
 
To me this shows the power of the media where people read something and believe it to be true. Many people have read that Shields is innocent - he isn't. Just because Jack Straw decided to pardon him does not make him innocent. Even the European Court of Human Rights rejected his appeal and upheld his conviction. If was yet another brilliant propaganda exercise by the loveable scouse scallies. Shields was part of a viscous gang of hooligans.

Fair enough mate. I did quite a lot of reading up on the case but it was a long time ago now so have forgotten a lot of the details, and the impression I took from it was that it probably wasn't him. I don't think Sankey getting paving slab and pavement slab mixed up means that Shields is implicated. Sankey comes across as a proper wrong 'un and my money would be on him. However, you could well be right and Shields may have at least been there when the assault happened.
 
On balance, I don't think Shields did it. Sankey strikes me as the guilty party and he's well known to the police on Merseyside, so it's not like he hasn't got form. But as @gordondaviesmoustache says, if Shields is innocent the crime was still committed by another Liverpool fan which is something so many of them conveniently overloook.

As for Jack Straw, well I remember upon Shields being released Straw insisted there would be an investigation into who the real culprit was, and if identified they would be brought to justice. As far as I know, no investigation ever took place and he was just paying lip service which for me is abhorrent.

They were all there together but he was trouble & the other was an angel. As the appeal papers said it was convenient to blame someone who couldn’t be prosecuted, the same person said he’d been threatened to make a statement, what kind of people are they that can get the mayor, Carra, Stevie G & Jack Straws attention & they never released the evidence why they released him, it stinks.
 
You can certainly see why scum fans have hated these ****s for so long.

I didn’t get it at first. Up until maybe 6 or 7 years ago, maybe 2014, I always kinda liked them. I cheered for them In 2005, Istanbul. I don’t know whether that’s because I hated United and these were their enemies. “An enemy of your enemy is your friend”.

Now, I’ve never hated a club more. They’re the worst of the worst. Always the victims, it’s never their fault.
 
I didn’t get it at first. Up until maybe 6 or 7 years ago, maybe 2014, I always kinda liked them. I cheered for them In 2005, Istanbul. I don’t know whether that’s because I hated United and these were their enemies. “An enemy of your enemy is your friend”.

Now, I’ve never hated a club more. They’re the worst of the worst. Always the victims, it’s never their fault.

Same here. I cheered for anyone again Rags and really had a soft spot for Dippers because they were their enemies. In last few years I realized they're twice as ****s as Rags. zero values whatsoever.
 
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