What I'm disputing is the connection between these two things. Hillsborough was not a consequence of overcrowding. The Leppings Lane end as a whole was not overcrowded - the number of people in the stand at 3pm did not exceed the number of tickets sold. The problem was that because of the failure of the police to manage the crowd properly on the day, fans were directed overwhelmingly into the two central pens while the side pens were significantly under capacity.
I'd also add that UEFA and the French government have changed their story so many times already; I don't know why you'd trust them. First there was '30,000-40,000 fake tickets.' Now it's about 2,000. You really think that 2,000 fake tickets caused those scenes?
Well, maybe I am with you. You seem to think that Hillsborough should prompt 'uncomfortable questions' of Liverpool. Like I say, if you want to know what actually happened I recommend the video.
I trust my eyes and videos I have seen, I trust my experiences with jibbing scousers and their behaviour.
The French government didn't force that arsehole of a manager you have to call for scousers to converge on Paris, the French government didn't force LFC to ask for paper tickets, own your mistakes and stop hiding behind Hillsborough every time you fuck up.
The difference between Taa and Cancelo is staggeringNo but I did see him not playing yesterday... #overrated
Yeh LFC fans made the comparison, but they didn't say anything about overcrowding because it's not relevant
What I'm disputing is the connection between these two things. Hillsborough was not a consequence of overcrowding. The Leppings Lane end as a whole was not overcrowded - the number of people in the stand at 3pm did not exceed the number of tickets sold. The problem was that because of the failure of the police to manage the crowd properly on the day, fans were directed overwhelmingly into the two central pens while the side pens were significantly under capacity.
I'd also add that UEFA and the French government have changed their story so many times already; I don't know why you'd trust them. First there was '30,000-40,000 fake tickets.' Now it's about 2,000. You really think that 2,000 fake tickets caused those scenes?
Ramsay is nowhere near ready for the EPL.Seems the right back at Aberdeen Ramsay maybe with the salah situation Klopp thinking about playing Trent in that position he seems to always push right up in games now. 3m though that’s cheap is he any good never seen him play must this money ball shit the scouse use.
Beginning of the endLooks like the dippers are starting on Salad.
Leaking stories they asjednhim not to play for Egypt and have a scan for an injury instead.
I think the 30-40k figure was fans without tickets rather than fake. The question about Hillsborough which I don't think was ever answered with any certainty, although I will stand corrected, is how many fans were there outside who didn't have tickets and how many turned up close to kick off.What I'm disputing is the connection between these two things. Hillsborough was not a consequence of overcrowding. The Leppings Lane end as a whole was not overcrowded - the number of people in the stand at 3pm did not exceed the number of tickets sold. The problem was that because of the failure of the police to manage the crowd properly on the day, fans were directed overwhelmingly into the two central pens while the side pens were significantly under capacity.
I'd also add that UEFA and the French government have changed their story so many times already; I don't know why you'd trust them. First there was '30,000-40,000 fake tickets.' Now it's about 2,000. You really think that 2,000 fake tickets caused those scenes?