Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

[KS55]

Hypocracy is the word. Manchester has a stronger socialist heritage Also a better irish expat exoerience. They treated irish catholics terriblty..my grandad being one. Moston Manchester became tbe home he loved

Irish immigrants largely built Trafford Park. Huge contingent in C19 and early C20.

 

[KS55]

Totally agree and if they want their own government I am sure there are millions of people outside of Liverpool who will gladly help them "leave" the UK

This is exactly the case with Scottish independence. The English taxpayer significantly funds social items which we don’t have such as free care for the elderly, free uni education etc. This is funded by reducing gov spending in the English regions. Most English taxpayers would gladly support Scottish independence.
Note the poisoned dwarf wants a referendum. She keeps conveniently quiet about her terms which include no fiscal independence. Keep paying, you sassenachs.

 

[KS55]

I think it goes back to their history of comedians - Arthur Askey - Doddy - Tarby and so on - and the Beatles - those cheeky scamps - I always preferred Geordies myself, grafters who have a proper sense of humour. As a comparison think the comedy drama Auf Wiedersehen Pet as opposed to Boys from the Blackstuff. In the former Geordie tradies facing hard times got off their arses and went and grafted - in Boys a group of dippers are staying at home its much darker all round as they wander about demanding to be given work...... makes ya think

They used to say ”gi’us a job” now they say “fuck the job, just gi’us the money.”

 

[Brooklands Blue]

Irish immigrants largely built Trafford Park. Huge contingent in C19 and early C20.

As well as providing a large amount of the labour force to dig the earth out for the ship canal.

 

[Tolmie scores]

Its the 'long to reign over us'' line that i can't stomach...we are all equal aren't we? I wont boo
.just keep my counsel ..that's the beauty of free expression though...imagine being in North Korea being made to sing it..madness

 

[crazyg]

Its the 'long to reign over us'' line that i can't stomach...we are all equal aren't we? I wont boo
.just keep my counsel ..that's the beauty of free expression though...imagine being in the kop being made to boo it..madness

Slight edit for accuracy.

 

[KentBlue]

Some people think that it's a relatively new thing, disliking the dippers. And from a footballing perspective this is almost certainly true. It's only in the last few years that their name has pinged up on the radar again after about 30 years of footballing wilderness.
But the general dislike of all things Scouse goes way, way back. I remember grandparents saying never trust a scouser: they are lying, thieving, unscrupulous people with no morals whatsoever.

Naturally this is not indicative of the entire population of the city of Liverpool: of course not. One bad apple and all that. But that was the general feeling when I was growing up.

Years later I became a guitarist/vocalist and I applied my trade throughout the south east: pubs, clubs, wedding receptions, cruise ferries, etc. And then the Channel Tunnel came along. An influx of European labourers, carpenters, plasterers etc seemed to appear almost overnight in search of work.
Many of these transient labourers were Scousers. And it was meeting some of these people in the clubs and pubs where I was playing that reinforced the stereotype that I'd grown up with...and some!
I'll not go into detail but I can assure you after every gig the locals would watch over my gear as I went to and fro putting the amps and cabs etc into the van.

These people would routinely steal ashtrays, beermats, empty glasses - anything they could get their hands on. Now why the fuck would you want to steal a beermat, FFS!

The tunnel was finished and opened to the public in the mid-1990's, but the sour aftertaste of the visiting Scousers is still being experienced by those that remember the late 80's early 90's in the Garden of England.

 

[KS55]

As well as providing a large amount of the labour force to dig the earth out for the ship canal.

Many people in England think that the Irish came here as labourers, full stop. Although that was largely true at the outset, they quickly moved on to learn all the skilled trades involved in Manchesters massive development. They were in huge demand as brickies, plasterers, electricians plumbers etc etc.
iirc, McAlpines relied heavily on Irish labour, training thousands in the skilled trades.

 

[KS55]

Some people think that it's a relatively new thing, disliking the dippers. And from a footballing perspective this is almost certainly true. It's only in the last few years that their name has pinged up on the radar again after about 30 years of footballing wilderness.
But the general dislike of all things Scouse goes way, way back. I remember grandparents saying never trust a scouser: they are lying, thieving, unscrupulous people with no morals whatsoever.

Naturally this is not indicative of the entire population of the city of Liverpool: of course not. One bad apple and all that. But that was the general feeling when I was growing up.

Years later I became a guitarist/vocalist and I applied my trade throughout the south east: pubs, clubs, wedding receptions, cruise ferries, etc. And then the Channel Tunnel came along. An influx of European labourers, carpenters, plasterers etc seemed to appear almost overnight in search of work.
Many of these transient labourers were Scousers. And it was meeting some of these people in the clubs and pubs where I was playing that reinforced the stereotype that I'd grown up with...and some!
I'll not go into detail but I can assure you after every gig the locals would watch over my gear as I went to and fro putting the amps and cabs etc into the van.

These people would routinely steal ashtrays, beermats, empty glasses - anything they could get their hands on. Now why the fuck would you want to steal a beermat, FFS!

The tunnel was finished and opened to the public in the mid-1990's, but the sour aftertaste of the visiting Scousers is still being experienced by those that remember the late 80's early 90's in the Garden of England.

Of course Liverpool’s high port taxes played its part and were much resented in M/cr. So much so that the ship canal was built. Scousers resented this, feeling they had been diddled out of their due. Should not have been so greedy. Enmity between Liverpool and M/cr followed.
Scouse venality played a big part in the demise of Liverpool docks. That trade goes elsewhere now, Preston being a big beneficiary.

 

[manclad]

Many people in England think that the Irish came here as labourers, full stop. Although that was largely true at the outset, they quickly moved on to learn all the skilled trades involved in Manchesters massive development. They were in huge demand as brickies, plasterers, electricians plumbers etc etc.
iirc, McAlpines relied heavily on Irish labour, training thousands in the skilled trades.

It wasn't McAlpines.
It was Wimpey who employed all the Irish .
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