Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

[bluenova]

I hate to see heartache but, if a picture paints a thousand words (as Bread sang laboriously . . but in a way that hangs around and haunts you . . endlessly) .

then maybe one perspective could be that

That main picture consisted of:-
* an whimpering kid in the foreground (poor lad) - covering his face,
* an adult male to the r/h side (implies father & son?) - also covering his face,
* a big bloke stood behind them - wearing a warm hood over his head, on a hot day, with dark sunglasses on and also covering his face.

To some, this may appear to be a totally constructed photograph, carefully selected, or indeed put together, to make a story out of nothing.
One line of thought could be; why, in a search for heartrending father & son type imagery (out of all the hundreds of digital photographs taken by each and every photographer at the event), should they choose to present an image of 2 people covering their faces like bandits?
And also, why does the big bloke stood behind them have his face covered, why does he have a hood over his head when everyone around are wearing T shirts? Why is he wearing dark sunglasses when his eyes are already shaded by his hood?

I don’t do conspiracy theories and I’ve not got a stake in the fight, so I’m more interested than arsed about the outcomes, but it just looks a well dodgy photo to me.

What do you imagine the reason is?

My guess is that they're covering their faces because the French police are using Pepper spray.

 

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons, the Porto Pussycats, the Bernabeu Bottlers​

« Reply #28973 on: September 23, 2022, 10:35:24 am »

Quote from: JRed on September 22, 2022, 07:40:21 pm

No doubt the Cityzens will think it’s something the media has made up. But it shows their fans are among the worst behaved. That pitch invasion when Villa’s keeper was barged into could’ve seen someone seriously injured.

Thing is, as much as they like to bang on about the City coach, my experiences with City fans have been pretty grim in recent years. Angry and aggressive. And they seem to have a tendency to fight amongst themselves also. In their mind the smashed coach window is a far worse sin then them doing bodily harm to people

We 100% have our wrong´uns as well. But it is clear they have a decent proportion of aggressive dick´eds.

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These aggressive dickheads petal... how many walls have they pushed over on Italian supporters? How many paving stones have they dropped on Bulgarian waiters heads??

I'm amazed Everton came fifth in the table of supporter arrests... It seems the merseyside police force only turn a blind eye to one lot of their locals bad behaviour.

 

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What do you imagine the reason is?

My guess is that they're covering their faces because the French police are using Pepper spray.

My guess is that you’ve never been on a demo where pepper spray was deployed.

In all fairness, I considered pepper spray but (from my real life experience / no guessing) the fact is that they’d be covering their eyes and noses if pepper spray was in play.
Just a bit in the air and the first thing it does is get your eyes streaming - if you have a hanky and you hold it tight over your mouth and nose and your eyes are as shut as you get them.

The way they have their faces covered isn’t to deal with pepper spray, it’s to disguise who they are - bandit style not pepper spray protection style and, from a glance at those around them, there’s not so much as a tear, never mind everyone blinded by streaming eyes.

And anyhow, we often see footage of Klanfield‘s finest abroad, scarves worn as disguises,bandit style round their faces while they generally attack the locals / old folk thrown into fountains etc. but not a hint of pepper spray anywhere near them.

 

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons, the Porto Pussycats, the Bernabeu Bottlers​

« Reply #28973 on: September 23, 2022, 10:35:24 am »

Quote from: JRed on September 22, 2022, 07:40:21 pm

Thing is, as much as they like to bang on about the City coach, my experiences with City fans have been pretty grim in recent years. Angry and aggressive. And they seem to have a tendency to fight amongst themselves also. In their mind the smashed coach window is a far worse sin then them doing bodily harm to people

We 100% have our wrong´uns as well. But it is clear they have a decent proportion of aggressive dick´eds.

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These aggressive dickheads petal... how many walls have they pushed over on Italian supporters? How many paving stones have they dropped on Bulgarian waiters heads??

I'm amazed Everton came fifth in the table of supporter arrests... It seems the merseyside police force only turn a blind eye to one lot of their locals bad behaviour.

Not digging you out but I’ve read and heard this a few times. They didn’t push a wall over onto the juventus fans.

They charged the juventus fans and on turn they fled in horror towards a wall that was at the end of the terrace. This force has led to a wall collapsing on the poor souls and that’s why 39 people were killed.

 

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If the scousers like breaking walls so much why don't the 'morally outraged' upstanding citizens of Dipperland break the wall of silence that is protecting the scum who killed a 9 year old kid?

 

[bluenova]

My guess is that you’ve never been on a demo where pepper spray was deployed.

In all fairness, I considered pepper spray but (from my real life experience / no guessing) the fact is that they’d be covering their eyes and noses if pepper spray was in play.
Just a bit in the air and the first thing it does is get your eyes streaming - if you have a hanky and you hold it tight over your mouth and nose and your eyes are as shut as you get them.

The way they have their faces covered isn’t to deal with pepper spray, it’s to disguise who they are - bandit style not pepper spray protection style and, from a glance at those around them, there’s not so much as a tear, never mind everyone blinded by streaming eyes.

And anyhow, we often see footage of Klanfield‘s finest abroad, scarves worn as disguises,bandit style round their faces while they generally attack the locals / old folk thrown into fountains etc. but not a hint of pepper spray anywhere near them.

It looks more like they're concerned that they could be sprayed, or have been threatened with it, rather than it having just had it sprayed in their faces. They're clearly covering their noses and mouths while looking straight into a camera - hardly the same as the images we see when they're throwing bottles at buses.

Still, the thought of that kid being a bandit in disguise has made me smile :)

 

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Obviously it had been badly organised, poor stewarding & everyone herded towards the grassy knoll.

The grassy knoll would have been nicked, leaving the ‘soil patch’

 

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Re: Man City - the Lisbon Lyons, the Porto Pussycats, the Bernabeu Bottlers​

« Reply #28973 on: September 23, 2022, 10:35:24 am »

Quote from: JRed on September 22, 2022, 07:40:21 pm

Thing is, as much as they like to bang on about the City coach, my experiences with City fans have been pretty grim in recent years. Angry and aggressive. And they seem to have a tendency to fight amongst themselves also. In their mind the smashed coach window is a far worse sin then them doing bodily harm to people

We 100% have our wrong´uns as well. But it is clear they have a decent proportion of aggressive dick´eds.

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These aggressive dickheads petal... how many walls have they pushed over on Italian supporters? How many paving stones have they dropped on Bulgarian waiters heads??

I'm amazed Everton came fifth in the table of supporter arrests... It seems the merseyside police force only turn a blind eye to one lot of their locals bad behaviour.

To be fair, going to Anfield is like going to Disneyland for a day out. It seems like more of a plastic family fun day out than any other ground in the country whenever I’ve been over the last couple of decades. Even in Liverpool city centre pre- or post-game, there’s just loads of Irish just having a nice time.

Their away ends at the Etihad always seem like softies. Even when we go to Wembley against them, I’ve never once encountered any trouble or groups of “lads” within Liverpool’s fans (there was a bit of mither with one coach at a services on one trip, but that wasn’t anything compared to the trips down there against United or even Wigan). Of all the sets of fans we’ve encountered at Wembley, they’re down the bottom for it feeling edgy or like something will happen.

I genuinely think he’s right, the Etihad and our fanbase is miles more moody than Anfield or their fanbase. Heard it said, seen it written online (Villa fans online saying it was frightening in that last game of the season at the Etihad for their fans) many times by many different fanbases that City and United’s fanbases are a bunch of nutters.

 

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To be fair, going to Anfield is like going to Disneyland for a day out. It seems like more of a plastic family fun day out than any other ground in the country whenever I’ve been over the last couple of decades. Even in Liverpool city centre pre- or post-game, there’s just loads of Irish just having a nice time.

Their away ends at the Etihad always seem like softies. Even when we go to Wembley against them, I’ve never once encountered any trouble or groups of “lads” within Liverpool’s fans (there was a bit of mither with one coach at a services on one trip, but that wasn’t anything compared to the trips down there against United or even Wigan). Of all the sets of fans we’ve encountered at Wembley, they’re down the bottom for it feeling edgy or like something will happen.

I genuinely think he’s right, the Etihad and our fanbase is miles more moody than Anfield or their fanbase. Heard it said, seen it written online (Villa fans online saying it was frightening in that last game of the season at the Etihad for their fans) many times by many different fanbases that City and United’s fanbases are a bunch of nutters.

When we played Liverpool in the league cup final (2024/15?) on the way there I witnessed an entire coach load of them shouting racist abuse at an Asian family at the service station. Loads of blues stood up for them and the scousers fucked off.

An abhorrent fanbase.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

They didn’t push a wall over onto the juventus fans.

They charged the juventus fans and on turn they fled in horror towards a wall that was at the end of the terrace. This force has led to a wall collapsing on the poor souls and that’s why 39 people were killed.

The wall collapsing probably saved more lives than it took.