Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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M18CTID said:
That's not what was said. They said "no misbehaviour by Liverpool supporters that contributed to the disaster" That last bit is the key point. I don't even think the most deluded of Liverpool fans would ever claim that every single one of their 20-odd thousand fans who were there behaved totally impeccably throughout the entire day. But that's irrelevant in respect of what caused the disaster in the first place. 2 independent inquests - 25 years apart - have stated that the behaviour (or misbehaviour even) of Liverpool fans on the day didn't in any way contribute to what unfolded. Do you think if City were in that semi-final that day and housed in that end, that every single one of our fans would've behaved perfectly? But like I said, the behaviour of fans wasn't the trigger for what happened - Hillsborough was a disaster years in the making and it was always going to become a reality if there was a breakdown in how that end was policed, and it was always more likely to happen if it was an FA Cup semi-final due to the numbers of fans attending. As such, April 15th 1989 was a kind of perfect storm and I've absolutely no doubt that whichever set of fans were in that end on that particular day would've experienced the same outcome.

I've posted this clip before and I'm going to post it again. Spurs fans very nearly suffered a similar fate 8 years earlier in that end when they played Wolves in the 1981 semi-final. The difference on this occasion is that the police did a fantastic job in alleviating a bigger disaster, opening the gates at the front of the Leppings Lane End to help ease the crush, and allowing hundreds of fans to sit round the perimeter of the pitch to watch the match. Contrast that to 8 years later when the police point blank refused to open the gates and if I'm not mistaken, when I watched the RTE footage of the match a few years back, there are even instances of police slapping fans back down into the pen for daring to attempt to climb the fence to get out. And despite the positive intervention of the police in 1981, there were still dozens of injuries with some Tottenham fans suffering broken limbs:

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I know Spurs lads who were there that day and they told me how scary it was. I recall seeing the fans being walked round the pitch on the highlights but not much was made of it so I didn't think too much of it at the time. It did seem a bit mad that they often didn't give the Spion Kop to the bigger team which is one thing I agree with pisscan Aldridge about. Maybe it was for logistical / transport reasons but it still wouldn't have solved the problem if for example City/Utd/Scousers were playing Newcastle/Sunderland/Leeds, just a ticking time-bomb tragedy waiting to happen unfortunately......
 
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Pingu the Penguin said:
Apologies if already posted. From the BBC:

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Brighton blocked 150 mostly Liverpool fans getting entry to the home section of the Amex Stadium for last weekend’s FA Cup fourth round tie after the Premier League club uncovered a scam involving ticket touts.

They discovered touts had set up multiple fake accounts to buy tickets for the game from the club and then resell for up to £250.

Once the club realised what was happening, they blocked the tickets, so the people holding them were unable to get into the stadium to watch the game, which Brighton won 2-1.

“It's an absolutely shameless exploitation of football fans,” said Brighton’s head of supporter services Jenny Gower. “Those who have fallen victim to this scam should contact their banks or credit card company to recover their funds.

“We understand that there are fans who are desperate to see their team but they were being charged up to £250 for tickets, which were essentially worthless.”
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Those Chelsea fans must have some money to pay £250 to watch a game not even involving their own team
 
Blue Feather said:
I know Spurs lads who were there that day and they told me how scary it was. I recall seeing the fans being walked round the pitch on the highlights but not much was made of it so I didn't think too much of it at the time. It did seem a bit mad that they often didn't give the Spion Kop to the bigger team which is one thing I agree with pisscan Aldridge about. Maybe it was for logistical / transport reasons but it still wouldn't have solved the problem if for example City/Utd/Scousers were playing Newcastle/Sunderland/Leeds, just a ticking time-bomb tragedy waiting to happen unfortunately......
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ends were literally decided geographically.

But if fans are given an allocation and each fill that application then whats the problem?
Dont each team deserve equal tickets no
Matter the size of the club ?
 
In the Burnden Park tragedy of 1946
events took place which were pointers as to what could happen in overcrowded football grounds with uncontrolled spectators.
What happened there had many similarities to what occurred at Heysel and Hillsborough.
The unsatisfactory condition of the stadia and the poor performance of the authorities played a big part in those tragedies, as well as those who attended.
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
Apologies if already posted. From the BBC:

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Brighton blocked 150 mostly Liverpool fans getting entry to the home section of the Amex Stadium for last weekend’s FA Cup fourth round tie after the Premier League club uncovered a scam involving ticket touts.

They discovered touts had set up multiple fake accounts to buy tickets for the game from the club and then resell for up to £250.

Once the club realised what was happening, they blocked the tickets, so the people holding them were unable to get into the stadium to watch the game, which Brighton won 2-1.

“It's an absolutely shameless exploitation of football fans,” said Brighton’s head of supporter services Jenny Gower. “Those who have fallen victim to this scam should contact their banks or credit card company to recover their funds.

“We understand that there are fans who are desperate to see their team but they were being charged up to £250 for tickets, which were essentially worthless.”
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South Yorkshire Police and Manchester City have issued a full apology to Liverpool FC.
 
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