Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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ayrshire_blue said:
Wrong. Hibs fans held banners dissenting the whole event. Motherwell and Kilmarnock fans joined in "shove your coronation up your arse". Not just dipperland at all, I'm dismayed that so many people in other places didn't feel brave enough to voice dissent about it when they had the chance. People doing what they're told in fear of being piled on for not obeying their masters.
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For fuck's sake Braveheart, it's not through fear, it's about HAVING RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS AND BELIEFS.

How can't you see this?

Recently, a member of my extended family died. He hated me. His direct family hated me. To be perfectly honest I didn't have a great deal of respect for any of them as a result of how they had treated me in my adult life. Despite all this hatred, I was invited to the funeral.

Did I go and cause a scene?

No, I didn't.

I respectfully declined the invitation and got on with my day so as not to cause offence to them ON THEIR DAY.

Now, I know you'll trot out some, "that's different, somebody had died" bollocks, but it's not.

It's about having respect for other people and what they might want.

Did the scousers respect what the Brentford fans might have wanted? No they fucking didn't, they made it all about what they wanted. As fucking usual.
 
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west didsblue said:
Disagree with that. It’s personal choice whether to sing it or not. England football shouldn’t use GTSK as the national anthem anyway. It should be a song about the country not the royal family. Other sports use different songs and football should do the same. Pick a song that everyone can get behind not just half.

Having said that GTSK on the day of the coronation was appropriate and gave those that support the king the chance to show their support and the rest the opportunity to have a bit longer in the bar.
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Agree why hasnt England got a National Anthem ?
 
shackattack said:
I looked at the decline of the North in the 80s as a positive and have never regretted moving away at all. Unlike Manchester where I believe the city and it's people moved on, a lot of scousers languish in this anger ridden sentimentality which only reinforces the victims mentality. If you challenge them on it they accuse you of being a plastic scouser/ woolyback etc.
I lived in Westgate on Sea for a few years and parts of Thanet could certainly give areas of the north a run for their money. Most seaside towns are impoverished for many reasons, Brighton in the 80s was a good example and look at it now. Here in Bournemouth a lot of the crime in the 80s and 90s was usually involving scousers.
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Westgate on sea, you were posh lol
 
west didsblue said:
Disagree with that. It’s personal choice whether to sing it or not. England football shouldn’t use GTSK as the national anthem anyway. It should be a song about the country not the royal family. Other sports use different songs and football should do the same. Pick a song that everyone can get behind not just half.
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The point I'm making is that Arnold wasn't,Henderson was,they are both part of the England set up,and it is the national anthem,which is sang when on duty.

Yesterday was an historic day,that rightly or wrongly should be adhered to especially if you are British.

If flower of Scotland was being played it would have been belted out,so I'm not taking any history lessons from any Scotch on here neither,(not that you are Scotch).

But this song you speak about that we all should be able to get behind,what are your suggestions ?

Timmy Malletts -Yellow polka dot bikini or somert like that ?
 
BlueMoonday said:
So the scousers expect everybody else to observe the Hillsborough minute silence but the rats won't respect the national anthem.
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This 100% moan like fuck if fans sing 'always the victims' yet they think it's ok to boo our National Anthem. Cant have it both ways.
 
give it to gordon said:
Westgate on sea, you were posh lol
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I worked in Margate to keep my standards down. Kent was a county that was massively overlooked by the government- ideal place for investment - airport at Manston empty, Eurotunnel, Dover port. Yet areas of it seemed very poor, like you say it wasn't just the North that was neglected. Kent seemed quite right wing politically and I remember Farage having an office in Ramsgate
 
The state of this thread.

Energy companies charging the public a fortune while making record profits. Politicians of almost every party fiddling public resources. Everyone raising prices of everything because they can, banks doing whatever they feel like, the public sector downing tools and generally so much out there to be upset about or protest over (if that's your thing).

But yes booing the national anthem at a football game, on the day of an inevitable change of personnel in a 300+ year old institution that's separate to it all, is really this brave act of admirable rebellion and revolutionary spirit.

Get the fuck in the bin.
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
For fuck's sake Braveheart, it's not through fear, it's about HAVING RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS AND BELIEFS.

How can't you see this?

Did the scousers respect what the Brentford fans might have wanted? No they fucking didn't, t
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Haha, except it's you who's missing the entire point. I'm all for respecting others opinions and beliefs. If you or anyone wish to pay respect to a monarchy then go ahead and do so, I respect that, I also respect those of differing views who wish to boo fuck out of it. It's me who understands that respect is a two way street here, not you. Did Brentford fans respect what the scousers wanted? No they fucking didn't.
 
Not read the 2000 pages on this and not about to on a Sunday morning. Am not a monarchist or anti monarchist am probably one of the majority who are largely ambivalent to the monarchy. I do believe in freedom of speech and the right to protest so am torn between condemning the scousers for their lack of respect to a national occasion and defending their right to voice their opinion. It could have been done differently, maintaining a silence and followed by a statement from the fan group Condemning the idea of a monarchy if that’s how they feel. However, quite rightly those with strong feelings against the way the scousers booed are perfectly entitled to condemn them for doing it. I must admit in my head I have settled on the booing to be less about the constitutional set up in this country and more down to scousers wanting attention and they generally do this by either behaving appallingly or claiming victim status.
 
Obviously this person feels strongly about the establishment so perhaps he should get in contact with the SNP members that support Hibs Motherwell and killmarnock and arrange a few coaches to travel down to London and protest outside Parliament or Buckingham Palace for a few days with banners etc
Maybe go even further and contact some sympathising dippers too join them in their quest, a word of warning make sure you don't fall asleep through the night ...they will have your teeth and come back for your gums :)
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Haha, except it's you who's missing the entire point. I'm all for respecting others opinions and beliefs. If you or anyone wish to pay respect to a monarchy then go ahead and do so, I respect that, I also respect those of differing views who wish to boo fuck out of it. It's me who understands that respect is a two way street here, not you. Did Brentford fans respect what the scousers wanted? No they fucking didn't.
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That's a load of bollocks, so the Brentford fans should have kept silent or bood like the Scouce scum, so as not to offend them, FFS
 
shackattack said:
I worked in Margate to keep my standards down. Kent was a county that was massively overlooked by the government- ideal place for investment - airport at Manston empty, Eurotunnel, Dover port. Yet areas of it seemed very poor, like you say it wasn't just the North that was neglected. Kent seemed quite right wing politically and I remember Farage having an office in Ramsgate
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The Tories broke the election rules and went well over budget to beat Farage by about 90 odd votes. I think Mackinlay election team were charged and nicked for breaking the rules.
What I found odd was that Mackinlay was allowed to stay as the MP even though the Tories broke the rules !

But we are going of topic ....sorry ;)
 
frothy said:
That's a load of bollocks
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It's not. Look, it's really simple.

Those who wish to sing the national anthem to respect a rich man being given a crown - good for them.

Those who wish to stay silent for a rich man being given a crown - good for them.

Those who wish to boo a tribute towards a rich man being given a crown - good for them.

Those who think the people who boo'd are wankers and wish to say so - good for them.

Those who boo'd who think those who paid tribute are wankers - good for them.


It's all each to their own, a fuss about absolutely nothing.
 
Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s down to the Irish connection. Either the descendants or the day trippers. We all know they hate the monarchy and we’re overjoyed when the queen died. It’s fuck all to do with the government.
 
Ste68 said:
Not read the 2000 pages on this and not about to on a Sunday morning. Am not a monarchist or anti monarchist am probably one of the majority who are largely ambivalent to the monarchy. I do believe in freedom of speech and the right to protest so am torn between condemning the scousers for their lack of respect to a national occasion and defending their right to voice their opinion. It could have been done differently, maintaining a silence and followed by a statement from the fan group Condemning the idea of a monarchy if that’s how they feel. However, quite rightly those with strong feelings against the way the scousers booed are perfectly entitled to condemn them for doing it. I must admit in my head I have settled on the booing to be less about the constitutional set up in this country and more down to scousers wanting attention and they generally do this by either behaving appallingly or claiming victim status.
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The last line is exactly what it is all about.

If Liverpool fans are unhappy with monarchy, they'd not have the 'Sir' Kenny Dalglish Stand. It's basically a load of well-off people making themselves the centre of attention and playing up to some archaic notion that Scousers are meant to be anti-establishment. Most of them aren't even from Liverpool. If they gave a toss about inequality then they'd be nowhere near Anfield, singing Mo Salah's name as he pockets £400k this week, or crying about their owners not spending £100m on a teenager.

A basic rule in life is if you upset Liverpool FC then you're doing something right. I'd say the monarchy is doing just fine.
 
In any crowd of tens of thousands of people, there will be many varied views on any given topic. Left and right, Brexit & Remain, Monarchists and Republicans, etc. But I go to football to watch the football, not debate these topics (although I might get involved in discussions about them in the car to or from the game or the pub before or after).

I think I heard a handful of boos at the ground when they played the National Anthem yesterday and I know some people went or stayed on the concourse, but there were many people who belted it out.

I remember when George Best died in 2008, there was an imposed minute's silence at every ground. I didn't agree with that, even though George had been a regular customer at my mum's café in the mid-1960's, where he came over as a nice, quiet lad. But, great player as he was, it was wrong to impose it on clubs he had no connection with. So I stayed on the concourse but I recall it was pretty well observed at the Etihad. If nothing else, it angered me that he got a liver transplant then did the replacement liver in as well. Someone else might have benefitted from that liver. But I wasn't going do anything so crass as to boo. It wasn't about me.

But this recent manifestation of theirs (and it is recent) on a flimsy pretext is all about them, typifying their cult-like behaviour and their determination to show themselves as victims. And I wonder how many in the crowd at Anfield yesterday who booed it, weren't even British. And if those non-British fans didn't boo it, I wonder what they made of it.
 
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plattlanebenches said:
Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s down to the Irish connection. Either the descendants or the day trippers. We all know they hate the monarchy and we’re overjoyed when the queen died. It’s fuck all to do with the government.
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We couldn't give two fucks over here tbh, bar a bit of morbid curiosity in the attachment you lot have to them. For what it's worth the old British Queen seemed like a nice person and outside of the odd attention seeker I doubt anyone over here celebrated her passing, if they felt any emotion over it.
 
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