Liverpool Vs City (CC) Post Match Discussion Thread

Firstly, I thought we were pretty poor for about two thirds of the two legs. Liverpool thoroughly deserved to go to Wembley because they simply wanted it more. Whether that says more about the league ambitions of both teams, I'm not sure, but Liverpool as a team and a fanbase certainly seemed more animated and excited about the prospect of Wembley than we did. Maybe when they finish outside the top 4, they'll look back on this season as "slight progress".

My main concern about us, is that we're nowhere near the team we were just two or three months ago. Where's the effortless changing of tempo we saw take us to seven wins on the spin in the Premier League? Where's the control and composure in our midfield? I'll tell you where: Africa, currently trying to help his national team win a competition they're favourites for. Yaya Toure is too fundamental our midfield, and unless he's having the best possible game, we don't tend to be anything better than "functional" (I think that's what the pundits call it). We've made Yaya as important as Silva was last season, if you follow my drift.

Despite his peach of a cross tonight, Kolarov is simply not good enough for where we want to go. He may have left Gerrard for dead tonight, but how many times have we seen him even attempt to run past the full-back and whip a ball towards the back post? Me neither. He's weak, sloppy, he doesn't think about where he's kicking the ball most of the time and he's starting to believe the hype built up around his left foot. He often makes decisions that completely mystify me when I see them, like trying to pass a ball through the middle of two players that were bearing down on him - in front of his own box.

But Kolarov isn't the only offender. Johnson isn't quite good enough for where we want to go, Dzeko's becoming ridiculously inconsistent in terms of his performances, Lescott needs to steady himself and compose himself while in possession of the ball (his unnecessary clearance lead to Liverpool's winner), abaleta has a lot of passion and a lot of love for City but he's not getting enough match practise to be used in such important games like this one and Stefan Savic ...

I feel sorry for Savic really. Had Kompany not been sent off against United, we'd still think he was a budding young centre-back learning his way in the game, and while he still is, he's now taken a huge confidence knock that will set him backs months because he is still young and inexperienced. He's been asked to fill the boots of the best centre-back in world football right now and as good as I think Savic will be, he's nowhere near the finished article. I suggest a season out on loan for Savic at another Premier League club, while we call Boyata back and decide whether he's worth keeping long-term instead of, or alongside, Savic.

We're out of the League Cup, but at least we can now concentrate on the two competitions we should be champions of come June 1st, 2012. Our squad does need a shake up some areas, and maybe we're not as strong in terms of depth as we thought we were, but our bouncebackability has been tested on a few occasions this season (vs. Blackburn after losing 2-0 to Bayern, for example) and we've passed when we've been really, really tested.

In every team there are causes for concern and weaknesses, but our wounds are slowly being healed. We've had a harsh couple of months to deal with and I'd say that from this run of fixtures:

Bayern Munich
Chelsea
Arsenal
Stoke City
West Brom
Sunderland
Liverpool
Manchester United
Liverpool
Wigan Athletic
Spurs
Liverpool

We've made it out of the other side with just a few scratches and bruises, rather than a total capitulation of spirit and league position.

Onwards from here it appears.
 
waspish said:
Richard said:
We must have the slowest team in the history of the premiership. Crying out for some pace in there.

The problem is we keep the ball to well teams get right behind the ball and we pass and we pass and we pass! Sometimes we need to change tact and let a team have a ball and we sit back to hit teams on the break

Quite often we win the ball, are in a good posistion to attack from, but because we aren't quick enough, allow the opposistion to get men back and form a wall which sometimes - we cant get around.
 
Richard said:
We must have the slowest team in the history of the premiership. Crying out for some pace in there.

Spot on mate, been saying it since last season.

Quite frightening how slow we are, we miss Yaya massively.

When Barry and NDJ play as our midfield you know we are so damn predictable.
 
rastus said:
Tevez City said:
Davs 19 said:
Let.s get 25 mill for the twat that you took your user name from and then we'll see if he needs anymore after that. Shouldn't you be on a Corinthians, psg, inter, Milan, kettle pouring board ?

The Quarter Billion Pound was Mancini's budget not Hughes :)
So what?

He had enough budget to sort the team, so he shouldn't complain about the lack of depth in the team.
 
im really pissed off. can't believe how disappointed i am. you should not get decisions like that wrong, in a cup semi final, when your stood 8 - 10 yards away looking right at the incident with nobody obscuring your view. fuck swings and roundabouts, there have been way to many against us this year. The dzeko incident i can understand, cos of where the ref was stood, but the richards handball is a disgrace. i saw it on tv at full speed, so why did't he, staggering really. i hope bernstein doesn't come out in defence of dowd tomorrow
 
At least we have the fa cup and champions league games to come , that should be able to motivate the players even if Roberto can't.

Mark Hughes got a lot of stick on this forum for buying over rated players but some of the signings Roberto has made since he has been here have been made to look foolish.

dzeko = Fail
Kolarov = Fail
Savic = Fail
Johnson = Fail

you could even add balotelli to that list really, what worries me most that is if you take 2 players out of our side we look completly average and our midfield is shite .
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
LoveCity said:
Gaylord du Bois said:

How about you counter argue with something relevant instead of an insult? I listed pros and cons did I not? My contempt for Adam Johnson may be over the top but he does my head in like few other players have.
No. No counter argument for you you fuck wit. Giving Savic or any player 2 renders your post nul and void.

What a sad little man you are then to insult a fellow Blue and call him a "fuck wit" for having an opinion.
 
Fuck me....slowest team in Premier history now are we and 3 points clear at the top with an out of this world goal difference.....You can't make this shit up. Oh for a Neal Heaney, he could motor.
 
No point blaming the ref tonight, poor decision but one of those decisions that gets given often enough.

We just weren't good enough, end of.
 

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