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Lost all respect for Barca/ sorry for my over-reaction!
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MCFC BOB
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We don't even know what's going to happen in the second legs yet.
BoyBlue_1985
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MCFC BOB said:We don't even know what's going to happen in the second legs yet.
I think we are all pretty certain of it
There is no point in debating you as you seem firmly set in your belief. However the reaction of my teams players that day was entirely justified and reflected accurately what we as fans felt. My friends from Man Utd, Arse, Spuds and a host of other clubs were equally outraged when usually a CL knockout would be their queue to tease and mock. That video only exposes the magnitude of cheating Barcelona resorts to when they're met with a team that can, and should have beaten them.Esteban de la Sexface said:gracious in defeat. I wouldn't go around showing off that video as a Chelsea fan.
Esteban de la Sexface
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Castiel said:There is no point in debating you as you seem firmly set in your belief. However the reaction of my teams players that day was entirely justified and reflected accurately what we as fans felt. My friends from Man Utd, Arse, Spuds and a host of other clubs were equally outraged when usually a CL knockout would be their queue to tease and mock. That video only exposes the magnitude of cheating Barcelona resorts to when they're met with a team that can, and should have beaten them.Esteban de la Sexface said:gracious in defeat. I wouldn't go around showing off that video as a Chelsea fan.
If anything it was the decision making of the referee that you should be aggrieved with, not Barcelona.
You think the behaviour of Ballack and Drogba was justified yet deride Barca and Real for the same actions.
Their sanctions were justified and so will the ones handed out to the cheaters last night, if there will be any.
I'm not contesting the justification of the sanctions even though I'm convinced Barcelona will receive none. Drogba and Ballack broke the rules and were punished but their reactions were still morally justified because it was an absolute travesty by BOTH the reff and Barcelona. The team for cheating so incessantly that it could only have been a pre-empted game-plan and the reff for allowing and encouraging it.Esteban de la Sexface said:If anything it was the decision making of the referee that you should be aggrieved with, not Barcelona.
You think the behaviour of Ballack and Drogba was justified yet deride Barca and Real for the same actions.
Their sanctions were justified and so will the ones handed out to the cheaters last night, if there will be any.
What Ballack and Drogba did in 2009 and what Barca and Real did last night are completely different. The former was reaction to blatant, chronic cheating and the latter the act of cheating itself. Whats even more hilarious is, our sanctions when Barcelona surround the reff systematically after EVERY potential foul, acted or otherwise, in an organised attempt to get a player sent off.
I feel you'll only appreciate the level of outrage fans and players experience when you've been on the receiving end of Barcelona illegally raping you of a tie - while the reff holds their hand. For these reasons I will never respect that team and they should never be considered "the greatest team to play the game" in my eyes.
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Castiel said:I'm not contesting the justification of the sanctions even though I'm convinced Barcelona will receive none. Drogba and Ballack broke the rules and were punished but their reactions were still morally justified because it was an absolute travesty by BOTH the reff and Barcelona. The team for cheating so incessantly that it could only have been a pre-empted game-plan and the reff for allowing and encouraging it.Esteban de la Sexface said:If anything it was the decision making of the referee that you should be aggrieved with, not Barcelona.
You think the behaviour of Ballack and Drogba was justified yet deride Barca and Real for the same actions.
Their sanctions were justified and so will the ones handed out to the cheaters last night, if there will be any.
What Ballack and Drogba did in 2009 and what Barca and Real did last night are completely different. The former was reaction to blatant, chronic cheating and the latter the act of cheating itself. Whats even more hilarious is, our sanctions when Barcelona surround the reff systematically after EVERY potential foul, acted or otherwise, in an organised attempt to get a player sent off.
I feel you'll only appreciate the level of outrage fans and players experience when you've been on the receiving end of Barcelona illegally raping you of a tie - while the reff holds their hand. For these reasons I will never respect that team and they should never be considered "the greatest team to play the game" in my eyes.
Chelsea used the same tactics under Mourinho. They contested every decision, to the point where Halsey reported them, if I remember correctly after a game.
Drogba never dives, Mikel doesn't cheat and Essien is the cleanest tackler I've ever seen.
Every club has dirty laundry.
Taking it there is dragging us away from the point. Yes, my team has done it, your team has done it and every professional team in the history of football has, at one point, done it. But Barcelona have, above all others, transformed cheating into an artform and an essential aspect of their strategy.Esteban de la Sexface said:Chelsea used the same tactics under Mourinho. They contested every decision, to the point where Halsey reported them, if I remember correctly after a game.
Drogba never dives, Mikel doesn't cheat and Essien is the cleanest tackler I've ever seen.
Every club has dirty laundry.
The video posted of Chelsea at its height vs Barcelona in 2006 depicting our defence kicking lumps out of Messi which initially prompted my response isn't something I'll hide away from. My team committed countless fouls and played a degree of negative football (though in that video it focused on Chelsea's antics exclusively) during that era. I much prefer the way Ancelotti has us playing now to the way Mourinho had us kill games after a lead.
Our knock out to Man United this season doesn't bother me terribly, despite the fact that we should have gotten a penalty in the first leg when Ramiers was taken down. I don't hold a grudge over them for that because they were better than us over two legs and sometimes reff's make bad calls, thats just the world we live in.
What happened in 2009 however, we beat Barcelona by preventing them from playing their game and they cheated their way through at every possible opportunity. What I saw last night, against Arsenal earlier, against Inter the year before and no doubt against Man United in the final - was a replica performance when they realise they might not win.
People will criticise Chelsea/Inter/Madrid's tactics against Barcelona (all under Jose) but quite simply, that is how you beat them. You have to stop them from playing their game or they will tear you to pieces.