Lucy Letby infant murders trial - Guilty verdict (P 13)

[Elbow beards]

I remember that case the media absolutely crucified him.

It was fucking disgusting mate, If I remember correctly he'd only just been arrested,not even charged. Talk about innocent before proven guilty. It was the same again 'oh, you can tell just looking at him' thank fuck the police need a little more evidence than that.

 

[The Lightbowne Cowboy]

Evil beyond any words. Fuckin noose the vile piece of shit.

 

[paulchapo]

It was fucking disgusting mate, If I remember correctly he'd only just been arrested,not even charged. Talk about innocent before proven guilty. It was the same again 'oh, you can tell just looking at him' thank fuck the police need a little more evidence than that.

His life must have been a living hell with people still believing he must have done it, until they proved Napper was responsible.

 

[stonerblue]

None of us know exactly what was said or reported to them and when.

Looking with hindsight, it seems easy to see that they could have saved some lives. We don’t know that though.

It should be investigated and if the evidence is there to convict, they should have their day in court.

Er, yes we do

BBC One - Panorama, Lucy Letby: The Nurse Who Killed

Lucy Letby has been convicted of murdering babies. What turned a nurse into a killer?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Bluesince1979]

If its found that deaths couldve been avoided but werent due to incompetence, negligence , whatever , then those people should be in court for manslaughter. Always thought that about the rochdale grooming case.

 

[paulchapo]

Yeah. I saw that. You could see the doctor trying to comprehend how it happened and how they might have stopped her earlier.

He was obviously broken by what’s happened. If he could prove management have allowed more deaths, then he would.

I think a few will unfortunately be feeling a sense of guilt feeling they should have gone to the police sooner.

 

[mackenzie]

It was fucking disgusting mate, If I remember correctly he'd only just been arrested,not even charged. Talk about innocent before proven guilty. It was the same again 'oh, you can tell just looking at him' thank fuck the police need a little more evidence than that.

It was the police and their "honeytrap" that was to blame. Thrown out of court and rightly so.

 

[BlueHammer85]

In her night out photos she looks normal.

Judging looks is pointless.
It seems only till they turn out to be a mass murderer then all of a sudden everyone can 'tell by the eyes' that he/she is evil.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Er, yes we do

BBC One - Panorama, Lucy Letby: The Nurse Who Killed

Lucy Letby has been convicted of murdering babies. What turned a nurse into a killer?

www.bbc.co.uk

We have one side’s account. It hasn’t been corroborated.

The police will no doubt investigate and if they think there is enough evidence to charge, they will.

Then the CPS will look at the likelihood of conviction.

 

[threespires]

It's quite depressing. I remember reading years ago that experts reckoned if you hadn't addressed problem kids by the age of seven it was too late. We just don't have the money or resources to do that so I guess we're pretty much fucked. Add to that a lot of problem kids have parents and grandparents that were the same then they have no decent role models or stability.

Depressing that if you work in the same location in the justice system for long enough you will invariably see the children of those you have previously dealt with.

I'm not sure that I agree with the analysis that we don't have the money, I just don't think we have the political will and vision to try something different. The economic cost of trying (and mostly failing) to fix things when they break is often multiples of the cost of stopping it breaking in the first place. The problem is that upfront investment to stop something that 'might' become fucked up is a much harder 'sell' than spending money to fix something that is clearly fucked up. One of many cognitive biases we have.

Back to Letby but on the subject of cognitive biases I read something that said our traditional views of gender norms (women = nurturing etc) make it easier for a female serial killer to go undetected for longer. Add in our perception of nurses as caring and that compounds the problem further which along with opportunity that the role provides is why a hugely disproportionate number of female serial killers are nurses.