I think it’s very concerning that you can line up with 5 at the back, 4 in front (deny space) and have a fast centre forward to hit a diagonal pass too...(We’ve been caught out by that pass over the top for the first goal so many times this season) and we don’t seem to solve playing against this setup. I saw very little in Lyons performance tonight that was any different to the Wolves performances earlier this season when I knew the writing was on the wall for our premier league campaign.
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Lyon CL QF Post-Match Thread
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I think it’s very concerning that you can line up with 5 at the back, 4 in front (deny space) and have a fast centre forward to hit a diagonal pass too...(We’ve been caught out by that pass over the top for the first goal so many times this season) and we don’t seem to solve playing against this setup. I saw very little in Lyons performance tonight that was any different to the Wolves performances earlier this season when I knew the writing was on the wall for our premier league campaign.
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Thank god we weren't playing Bayern after what they did to Barcelona
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To me, this is the end of my love-in with Pep. Gundog always starts, 2 substitutions when we're up against it, criminally leaves Foden on the bench, when he will be one of the best young players in the country, but he can't get a game.
A blind man and his dog would have known that we need a Striker and a couple of good defender, last 2 transfer windows he's signed no-one. Jesus is just not that good a striker.
Rodri and Cancelo are sh*te, Gundog is useless, Mahrez turns up once every 6 games and does nothing the other 5. What did he do tonight when he came on? Jack sh*t as usual.
Thanks for the great 2 years winning the League Pep, but we have a squad that in a year or two without KDB and Foden we will be lucky to scrape mid-table. The players look tired of the tactics used and constantly overthinking caused us to lose so many games this season.
Can we get Poch? It's time for a change
A blind man and his dog would have known that we need a Striker and a couple of good defender, last 2 transfer windows he's signed no-one. Jesus is just not that good a striker.
Rodri and Cancelo are sh*te, Gundog is useless, Mahrez turns up once every 6 games and does nothing the other 5. What did he do tonight when he came on? Jack sh*t as usual.
Thanks for the great 2 years winning the League Pep, but we have a squad that in a year or two without KDB and Foden we will be lucky to scrape mid-table. The players look tired of the tactics used and constantly overthinking caused us to lose so many games this season.
Can we get Poch? It's time for a change
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Going to tell you why I *gag* respect the scouse cunts. They have a heartbreaking CL final loss, they come back and win the whole thing. They have a heartbreaking PL loss, they come back and win the whole thing.. I respect that. We have meekly bowed out of the CL every fucking year we have qualified, it's almost pitiful.
I will say I'm glad we won that CAS appeal though, can't wait to meekly bow out next season. It would have been a shit season if we couldn't meekly bow out of the CL.
I will say I'm glad we won that CAS appeal though, can't wait to meekly bow out next season. It would have been a shit season if we couldn't meekly bow out of the CL.
When Peter Walton says a ref is wrong... you know 1 million percent the ref has got it wrong
I think the ref, in a way, got it right - he should have allowed the game to continue and then allow VAR to review the outcome. The problem in this instance is there wasn’t enough in the trip for VAR to over rule the on-field refs decision. The trip was a coming together rather than a trip so I don’t think VAR would be compelled to overrule... IF the referee is given the chance to review I think he would changed his mind and awarded the foul... and this is one of the fundamental flaws with VAR
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Cue the poisonous bile that a lot of our so called support are good at dishing out. Some of them didn’t even give a toss about this competition. Shame on you guys. Very unlucky city and feel sorry for sterling. Pep thank you for some amazing football this season. Well done to a very organised french team.
Agree with this. For goodness sake remember the success and fantastic football we have seen with this manager.
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I'm a City fan who also follows Lyon (having lived there in the 80's). All those slagging OL off have short memories - they have done City over repeatedly in this competition - it was clear that they had a plan and they stuck to it. Tbh, they are a less talented squad than City's, but as we have seen on a dozen occasions over the '19-'20 season, you don't need to be a better team to beat City, you just need to get your tactics right - press hard and high, pack your defence, quickly close down City players in possession, force them wide when they get into the final third and use route 1 to bypass our midfield/back line and force errors in our 18 yard box.
Stones, Ottamendi, Walker and Garcia should not be playing for City. Same goes for Gundogan. Each of these defenders is either too slow, too clumsy, or too weak to do their jobs properly. Gundog showed early promise, but lacks creative vision and is more interested in passing backwards or laterally, rather than looking to feed those in front of him. He's now a dud. Jesus lacks confidence, and it showed tonight, but we need to keep him and work on cementing consistent performances from him. Sterling makes fewer mistakes than he did, but he too clearly has the odd shocker of a miss in him. KDB is true quality, but was starved of service in that game. Vital components of City's squad are now too old. Too stupid or too slow - not a winning combination.
I agree that Pep's tactics were poor (not for the first time) but for me team selection was just as damaging - the personnel he chose to execute his plan didn't do the job, and he failed to act to change things. Making only two (poor and tardy) substitutions, and leaving Foden and Bernardo on the bench places much of the blame at his feet. Pep has been a fabulous manager for City, but he has repeatedly got it more wrong than we have come to expect this season in the various competitions City didn't win. City are now firmly in a rebuilding phase, but someone needs to tell them, because they haven't made the acquisitions they have needed (e.g. Van Dyke) over the past five transfer windows to avoid the decline we have witnessed this season.
Stones, Ottamendi, Walker and Garcia should not be playing for City. Same goes for Gundogan. Each of these defenders is either too slow, too clumsy, or too weak to do their jobs properly. Gundog showed early promise, but lacks creative vision and is more interested in passing backwards or laterally, rather than looking to feed those in front of him. He's now a dud. Jesus lacks confidence, and it showed tonight, but we need to keep him and work on cementing consistent performances from him. Sterling makes fewer mistakes than he did, but he too clearly has the odd shocker of a miss in him. KDB is true quality, but was starved of service in that game. Vital components of City's squad are now too old. Too stupid or too slow - not a winning combination.
I agree that Pep's tactics were poor (not for the first time) but for me team selection was just as damaging - the personnel he chose to execute his plan didn't do the job, and he failed to act to change things. Making only two (poor and tardy) substitutions, and leaving Foden and Bernardo on the bench places much of the blame at his feet. Pep has been a fabulous manager for City, but he has repeatedly got it more wrong than we have come to expect this season in the various competitions City didn't win. City are now firmly in a rebuilding phase, but someone needs to tell them, because they haven't made the acquisitions they have needed (e.g. Van Dyke) over the past five transfer windows to avoid the decline we have witnessed this season.
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We've done it again and beaten ourselves.
That's a mental problem, not a tactical one.
We've beaten Real by a great attitude.
Tonight we were shaky and sloppy again, lacking confidence and made way too many silly mistakes/poor passes to enter a CL semi final.
Not to our normal technical standards.
In my book the coach is responsible for the player's attitude, but once the game has kicked off he can't do much.
Pep didn't bottle Raheem's 3rd minute lay up to Jesus - doh - or his pisspoor miss.
Pep didn't forget following his man like Kyle did pre 0-1.
Pep didn't make a howler like Ed pre 1-3.
The 1-2 given by VAR is a scandal though.
If 98% of Bluemoon really think Pep's line-up alone is the reason for a bloodless team performance, fair enough.
I don't agree.
Our lads were not upto it.
If Raz wouldn't shit himself we take an early lead and Pep 'did a masterclass again'. Fine margins.
We simply and sadly don't have the mentality monsters Bayern have.
Should be a key factor when signing new players, Txiki.
That's a mental problem, not a tactical one.
We've beaten Real by a great attitude.
Tonight we were shaky and sloppy again, lacking confidence and made way too many silly mistakes/poor passes to enter a CL semi final.
Not to our normal technical standards.
In my book the coach is responsible for the player's attitude, but once the game has kicked off he can't do much.
Pep didn't bottle Raheem's 3rd minute lay up to Jesus - doh - or his pisspoor miss.
Pep didn't forget following his man like Kyle did pre 0-1.
Pep didn't make a howler like Ed pre 1-3.
The 1-2 given by VAR is a scandal though.
If 98% of Bluemoon really think Pep's line-up alone is the reason for a bloodless team performance, fair enough.
I don't agree.
Our lads were not upto it.
If Raz wouldn't shit himself we take an early lead and Pep 'did a masterclass again'. Fine margins.
We simply and sadly don't have the mentality monsters Bayern have.
Should be a key factor when signing new players, Txiki.